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AIBU in wondering why people are STILL walking their dogs in this weather? *trigger warning*

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ProfessorMoody · 29/06/2018 10:31

This was posted by my vet on Facebook. It's a long and distreasing read, but please, if you're one of the people walking your dogs in this heat, don't do it Sad

Heatstroke Warning for Dog Owners

Heat Stroke – what’s the big deal?
There are a lot of posts warning dog owners to be careful in the hot weather, but still there are dogs being exercised at inappropriate times of the day. When the weather is as hot as it is, as suddenly as it is, it may even be inappropriate to exercise your dog at all.

Why does everyone make such a fuss about dogs getting too hot? Clearly there are far too many owners who don’t understand the importance of the warnings. The fact is, excess heat can all too easily be fatal – yes fatal – your dog will die. Not just die, they will die a particularly horrible death.

In all the many warnings and articles that are around there doesn’t seem to be any description of the process of heatstroke and how it actually causes a dog to die. Well maybe they should, because perhaps then owners would be a bit more serious in their efforts to protect their dogs.

If you are of an easily offended disposition, don’t continue reading. However, if you are of an easily offended disposition and still take your dog out in the heat then continue reading and be offended but educated. You have been warned

Today a dog died of severe heat stroke – exercised at 9 o’clock in the morning. If it was a child, the parents would be convicted of man slaughter and sent to prison. The long coated dog was being exercised in the local park at 9am this morning – it was already 21˚C. The owners where throwing a ball for the dog. Our loyal faithful friends will still pander to our requests of going with us for a walk or fetching the ball thrown even when they are under extreme stress of excessive heat. They don’t know to self regulate, because their pack leader has instructed them to walk with them or chase a ball etc.

I turned up to the local park to park my car and walk to work. It was in the car park that I discovered the dog with the owners next to their car, suffering from severe heat stroke. The scene was; the dog lying flat out on his side, semi-conscious, with extreme panting. His mouth and tongue were swollen up and a dark red/purple colour, there was a white frothy coating of saliva, the tongue and gums being fairly dry. The owners were trying to get the dog to drink some water, but the dog was entirely unable to do so. His belly was distended from panting and gulping air; this in itself can then restrict breathing.

I was not equipped to take the dog’s temperature, but I could feel it was dangerously high. His pulse however was unusually slow. I had water in my car and dowsed the dog’s coat down and we wetted a towel to stretcher the dog in to the car and for him to lay on in transit.

The dog was not registered with my practice, so I instructed the owner to take the dog to their own vet immediately.

Once I had finished my shift at work, I phoned the owner’s vet to see if they could tell me how the dog was. He was dead. A 5 year old, fit and healthy dog - dead. A death that was completely preventable. I asked the vet for detaila explaining that I was going to write this post. They were in support as long as names weren’t mentioned. Names are irrelevant, as this story will be happening all over the country.

The owners took the dog straight to their practice were he was treated immediately. His body temperature was just shy of 42˚C. A normal temperature range for a dog is 38.3˚C to 39.2˚C, a rise of just 1 – 2˚C can have major effects on the dog’s body systems. The nurses commenced cooling of the dog and the vet put him on a drip with rapid infusion of fluids and electrolytes. However, within 10 – 15 mins of being admitted the dog began to seizure. Seizures are caused when the electrical impulses in the brain misfire and cause like an electrical storm in the brain so the muscle fibres of the body rapidly twitch uncontrollably. In this case, the excess heat in the brain disturbs the electrical impulses. This is an added issue as the activity of the muscles then acts to increase the dog’s temperature even more. It was at this point that the vet went to gain consent to administer anaesthetic to the dog to try and reduce the seizure and lower the respiratory rate. But as the vet was talking to the owner, approximately 20 mins after arriving at the practice, the dog began to vomit and pass diarrhoea. The vomit and diarrhoea was full of blood. This even to the untrained reader, you can appreciate is bad news.

Once this was discovered, the dog’s gums were checked and small red/black spots were present, along with areas of bleeding on the abdomen. At this point the vet had to return to the owners and request consent for euthanasia.

The dog was suffering from disseminated intravascular coagulopathy. This is a fancy veterinary term that means the dog’s body systems was unable to clot his blood and therefore he was bleeding internally. In the veterinary world, it is nicknamed Death Is Coming. The process is not fully understood, but it is thought that the excess temperature prevents the body from performing the myriad of chemical reactions that allow it to function normally. Loosely, this causes the body to activate clotting, causing hundred of clots within the body. Once all the clotting factors are used up, the blood can no longer clot, so widespread haemorrhage ensues. It causes major organ failure; the kidneys, the liver, the heart and the lungs cease to function effectively. With a bit of luck, the dog is unconscious by this stage, as this must be hugely uncomfortable and a terrifying death.

For all those dog owners who think this was because the dog was chasing a ball and that is why he overheated, this can happen with your dog sat in the sun in the garden. It can take up to 60 days for a dog to acclimatise to a change in climate. I am pretty sure 60 days ago it was pouring with rain.

Once the dog becomes mildly overheated, unless they are cooled, they will continue to overheat. Dogs cannot sweat effectively and can only really lose body heat through panting. The process of panting can in itself cause excess body temperature if it is prolonged or laboured.

So, if you think it is too hot to put a thick coat on and go for a run, don’t make your dog do the same. If you think it is too hot to sit in direct sunshine for more than a few minutes whilst wearing a woolly jumper, then don’t make your dog do so. If it is too hot to stand on the pavement with your shoe and socks off, then don’t make your dog walk on it. If you don’t want to sit in your car without the air con on even if you have all windows wound down, don’t leave your dog in the car. If you are ever in any doubt of how to care for your dog in the warm or hot weather, speak your local vet practice. Better to speak to them now than your vet speaking to you to request consent for euthanasia.

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Ohmydayslove · 29/06/2018 11:56

Greenday

I just photoed your post and put it on my fb.

BrexitWife

You must understand people do love their dogs more than random children! I have 6 children I adore obviously but I love my dog more than my neighbors kids much as I like them.

SaltyPeanut · 29/06/2018 11:56

This is very graphic.

This is very upsetting.

Thank you for taking the time to write it.

Ohmydayslove · 29/06/2018 11:57

Greenday

Sorry Grin not your post the op. Do that on your fb to share it Smile

Greyhorses · 29/06/2018 11:59

We live on the beach and often let’s ours run around in the sea.

I don’t think there needs to be a blanket ban on dog walking, just more sensible owners required!

finnmcool · 29/06/2018 12:00

I've got a question that is probably going too seem stupid.
I'm looking after my friend's dog this weekend, she's a Cairn terrier.
I've already decided to walk her early morning and in the evening when it's cooler.
I live in a flat, and the streets around me aren't particularly shaded.
What about her toileting needs? Apparently she likes a stroll, sniff about etc, before doing her business. I'm concerned that she will be exposed to too much heat.

CrochetBelle · 29/06/2018 12:00

I've been getting up at 6 and leaving the kids in bed, just to get a quick 20 minutes out with the dog before the heat and sun kick in. Then taking her out for a quick one around 8.30 because that's the latest I can usually. She has access to a decent garden when I'm home and is very good at knowing when to sit in the shade.

Keep seeing all sorts out in the midday sun though 🙁

CoffeebyIV · 29/06/2018 12:00

Our dog will not poo in the garden and demands a walk instead. We have to walk him, he doesn’t understand the heat issue. So DH has been getting up at 5:45/6am and they go to the park for an hour and then he has a short walk about 9pm after dinner. We’d love not to walk him in the heat as it’s hard to judge the heat/timing but we can’t.

CrochetBelle · 29/06/2018 12:01

finn could you get hold of a cooling jacket?

finnmcool · 29/06/2018 12:01

*to seem

Gin96 · 29/06/2018 12:01

I have 2 dogs, one a big black lab that doesn’t cope well in the heat if I kept throwing a ball in 21 degree heat, he would be very ill as he would keep doing it even if he was half dead. I have a Pomeranian x and he would be fine. I don’t take them out after 7.30am they just stay at home, it’s just common sense.

finnmcool · 29/06/2018 12:02

I don't think my friend has one. Do pets at home sell them?

ScipioAfricanus · 29/06/2018 12:04

My family walks their dogs in the early morning and/or late evening in hot weather, and when it’s hot I used to take a water bowl and water and give them a drink half way round. Just looking at them in their coats panting should tell you how much hotter they can get than us.

yorkshireyummymummy · 29/06/2018 12:05

My Labrador is getting a 15 minute meander @ 7.30am and @ 8.00 pm. She is also eating later too and drinking probably double what she usually does. She spends most of the day in her happy place, on the sofa sleeping and looking out of the window.
She also likes a fan (on oscillate) directed at the sofa!

Great thread OP- I couldn’t read your op but i have a good idea what it says. Who knows - it may save a dog.

finnmcool · 29/06/2018 12:05

crochet,just had a google. Thank you for the suggestion Smile

Ilovemypantry · 29/06/2018 12:06

ProfessorMoody

Just want to say a big “thank you “ for posting this sad story. A useful warning to all dog owners.

SissySpacekAteMyHamster · 29/06/2018 12:07

Mine got walked at 7.30 this morning. One of my dogs will jump around begging to be taken on the school run when I set off at 2.30pm, but the pavements are so hot I don't take her. I feel mean leaving her but know it's the sensible thing to do.

Hate seeing dog walkers out in the middle of the day in this heat.

mostdays · 29/06/2018 12:07

IDK, people are so used to being bombarded with the "your dog needs walking you are a terrible lazy negligent pet owner if you don't walk them" message that they feel terrible, lazy and negligent (and that people would probably shout at them for using the heat as an excuse) if they didn't walk them. A decent information campaign would be a good idea. A lot of people walking their dogs in this weather probably don't want to be out and about themselves and are only doing so because they believe the dog needs the exercise, so would be glad to have better information.

Craftsandfun · 29/06/2018 12:10

Horrible Sad poor dog.

Same for small furries too. I’ve been bringing my rabbits inside during the day past few days as it’s too hot, even though their hutch is in the shade most of the day.

Blobby10 · 29/06/2018 12:12

I have had dogs for the past 13 years (had to have one PTS in November, the other only a month ago) - it does sound like it wasn't the act of walking the dog ( we had to always take ours out as they wouldn't wee or poo in the garden) which killed it but playing ball that caused the problem. That was just stupid behaviour which ultimately cost the owners their beloved pet.

Perhaps the warning could be amended to reflect that a short steady walk to let your pet do it's business is fine but please dont play ball or chase with them? Oh and don't let them swim in reservoirs with algae as this is poisonous too.

shockthemonkey · 29/06/2018 12:15

The French are absolutely on to this. I take my darling out into a very cool forest at 7 am and we are home before 8 am. Anyone seen walking their dog in the sun after 11 am is given an unsolicited lecture.

There is thus no excuse for my NDNs whose St Bernard died last summer while we were away -- the dog, not allowed inside, was left out in the garden with very little shade, all day while its owners were at work.

I am gutted to read here about how he must have suffered.

Thank you, OP.

SoyDora · 29/06/2018 12:16

The last thing our lazy oaf wants to do in this heat is go for a walk! He spends most of the day on the cold kitchen floor.
We used to live in Madrid where it was regularly 40+; we had to walk him at 6am or 10pm.

sobeyondthehills · 29/06/2018 12:23

My dog is severely pissed at me at the moment, he normally gets walked 3 times a day at 9am, just before midday and 3pm and then a quick round the block during the evening.

He has been staring at the door for a good half an hour with his ball now, I have shortened his walks in the morning and taken him earlier and given him a longer walk late at night, apparently that is not enough for him.

Judging from the barking I can hear out the window, another dog has the same issue, just more vocal about it

TwoSweetenersImBitterEnough · 29/06/2018 12:24

I have 2 medium/large sizes dogs with a short fur coat. They need plenty of exercise and love being outdoors running and playing. To accommodate this i have three paddling pools in the garden which they dip in and out of all day, plenty of shade spots for them to lie down and a huge bucket of fresh water, along with cool vests and booties (to stop their paw pads burning if we do need to go out in the day-e.g vet appointment next week). I stay up past 10pm just so I can take them for a walk once the sun has gone down, and regularly give them watermelon/ice lolly's (plain water and fruit bits) etc in the day to make sure they are getting as much cold fluid in them as possible.

One of my neighbours walks her frenchie at 1pm daily for 10 minutes on the green, wearing a thick fabric harness, no paw covers and never a bottle of water/travel bowl in sight. I am sick of telling her not too but she thinks it's cruel not to walk a dog and keep them inside all day. And yes I have told her to walk at night (even offered to do it myself), and also leave a bowl of water in my front garden which the dog always always drinks from on the way there and back. Frenchies have a hard time breathing as it is, I can't imagine how bad the poor thing must feel when it's dragged out everyday on the hot tarmac to run in full sunlight every day Sad

ProfessorMoody · 29/06/2018 12:26

No problem. If it saves one dog, the post has achieved something.

I'm used to having a working Nordic breed, so we have to be extremely careful with temperatures.

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BrexitWife · 29/06/2018 12:28

star Police???
Not policing. Just finding it extremely shocking.