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To think the FA should give a sizeable donation to Women's Aid?

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GunpowderGelatine · 18/06/2018 13:51

During the World Cup, if England lose, DV rates soar by 38%

If England win or draw, DV rates soar by 29%.

I am so sick of this.

AIBU to think the multi-billion pound FA should contribute a generous amount of their World Cup profit to Women's Aid or DV shelters until their fans stop beating up women? No it's not their fault men attack women but rather than brushing the issue aside they should maybe embrace the fact that their sport contributes to so much violence, rather than sticking their heads in the sand?

To think the FA should give a sizeable donation to Women's Aid?
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SandyY2K · 18/06/2018 17:47

first date question : ' do you get upset if your team lose? '

My DH isn't happy when his team lose...getting upset doesn't equate to violence by any means.

Violent people are just violent and no excuses are needed.

MirriVan · 18/06/2018 17:49

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Dobbythesockelf · 18/06/2018 18:05

The FA should try to raise awareness to combat domestic violence but they shouldn't be forced to donate to a specific charity as that seems a bit like blaming them for other people's actions.
As for the idea that the sport causes the violence, that is a load of crap. The only people responsible are the twats that carry it out and we should in no way shift that blame to anyone else be that a football team or a beer manufacturer.

Blueemeraldagain · 18/06/2018 18:15

The FA’s kick racism out of football was very successful. It took years but it made a noticeable difference. As did it’s tackling of hooliganism.

I think a sustained, well funded campaign would make a difference. I would also support those convicted of DV being banned from football matches. Presumably this could be covered under the “we reserve the right to refuse admittance”. I think banning fans convicted of racist and/or violent attacks played a large part in the decrease of racism/violence before/during/after matches.

Nicknacky · 18/06/2018 18:17

blue Banning people from games wouldn't work. Many of these people won't have stepped foot in a stadium and watched the games at pubs, friends etc

Blueemeraldagain · 18/06/2018 18:23

No, of course it wouldn’t eradicate DV on its own but I think we can all appreciate that any tackling of DV needs to be a multi pronged attack. It’s just another way of showing people who only think football and footballers’/managers’/etc opinions matter that they will not except DV.

Whatshallidonowpeople · 18/06/2018 18:41

It's not the fault of the football. Decent men aren't suddenly going to start knocking their wives and kids around due to a football score

Rachie1973 · 18/06/2018 18:48

specialsubject
first date question : ' do you get upset if your team lose? '
if answer is yes, no second date. We can breed this out in a generation.

I get upset if my team lose. To date I've never hit another human in my 45 years.

Greatorb · 18/06/2018 19:10

Domestic violence against women also increases during pregnancy and soon after. Who should we be asking for donations from for that increase?

Redleopard · 18/06/2018 19:30

I’m gobsmacked at the opposition to the FA donating to DV services!

DV services don’t just house women and leave it at that, they PREVENT DV from happening - they educate, they deliver programmes that boost self esteem, help victims recognise potential abusers and enable them to become confident enough to live strong independent lives free from abuse in their future.

They run preventative outreach programmes, raise awareness to empower victims and some run perpetrator programmes.

They have children’s workers who deliver therapeutic programmes to children and young people, to help them become emotionally resilient and help them avoid copying the abusive and traumatic patterns that may have become their norm. Some work with local schools to help educate young children about what a healthy relationship looks like - this works with both potential victims and perpetrators of the future.

Some DV organisations work with both men and women. All are desperately struggling for resources, why on earth are posters so against the FA helping?! As a previous poster said they have an annual charity, why the furious opposition to DV charities?

specialsubject · 18/06/2018 20:27

ffs, mn absolutes again.

ok - dont have sex or breed with anyone who is bothered about how a t v show or spectator sport ends for more than 30 se conds. simple enough?

Belindabauer · 18/06/2018 20:54

Some of these responses are hillarious. If women only dated, settled down with and bred with decent men we would have a serious crisis on our hands as the population would be in serious decline.
The reality is when you have that mindset anything can set you off. England losing is just one of many, many excuses, just as a woman not cooking dinner correctly or another man !looking at his wife.

I think the FA should donate money to educate males about this.

Yes it is males who commit the vast majority of domestic violence.

JacquesHammer · 19/06/2018 07:26

I’m gobsmacked at the opposition to the FA donating to DV services!

I object to any organisation being told they “should” donate to any cause.

I don’t have an issue with the FA being approached to consider or indeed running an education programme.

I wonder whether the OP has contacted the FA with her suggestion?

Aeroflotgirl · 19/06/2018 07:34

The FA is not responsible for abusers behaviour, they are! You are taking tge responsibility from tge abuser, and placing the blame elsewhere. Plenty of men who watch the football, don't abuse!

Aeroflotgirl · 19/06/2018 07:44

It itvis not the football, abusers will pick on something else, the wrong dinner, text from a friend, accuse of cheating etc

LittleLionMansMummy · 19/06/2018 07:51

Admissions to A&E and the number of people arrested and taken into custody also rocket during a World Cup. I agree that a contribution from alcohol companies would be a better idea. The occasion of the World Cup causes people to drink more alcohol and men who are already abusive become more so with alcohol in them. That's not Fifa's fault.

doughnutsare4ever · 19/06/2018 07:53

Alcohol also plays a big part in DV. Do you want all companies to also contribute?

I think this is a very good idea.

Unhomme · 19/06/2018 08:13

I didn't know where the stats came from so Googled them and found this from the Scotland women's aid saying there isn't an increase.

womensaid.scot/no-domestic-abuse-does-not-increase-by-38-when-england-lose-the-world-cup/

I don't know how the plays to the OP's proposal or what the answer to this complex issue is. Sorry.

Companion42 · 19/06/2018 08:17

I think this is a good idea OP. Not because the FA are responsible but because they're in a good position to donate and raise awareness. Maybe they could have ads with Women's Aids number attached? That might help someone in need

PlowerOfScotland · 19/06/2018 08:18

Scotland usually couldn't give a shiny shite if England doesn't win the world cup. DV rates after Old Firm matches are something else.

ICantCopeAnymore · 19/06/2018 08:20

Football and everything it stands for is vile.

People who get upset over a ball game are just the epitome of pathetic. They must be extremely unintelligent and have very sad, empty lives.

To abuse someone because of this is just beyond. I couldn't get involved with someone who enjoyed football. It's such a sad existence.

RubyShooFan · 19/06/2018 08:22

YANBU! Alcohol companies donating also an excellent idea!

FA should also be funding adverts during half time reminding people not to beat their wives/children and encouraging others to donate to woman’s aid too.

What happened to that ‘real men’ campaign from a few years ago that several celebs signed up to?

worridmum · 19/06/2018 08:32

Should we force female orintated groups to give money to shops since statistically women do the nost shop lifting or should shops be able to charge woman more because as a group they steal more?

This is where your logic leads.

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