To think the FA should give a sizeable donation to Women's Aid?

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During the World Cup, if England lose, DV rates soar by 38%

If England win or draw, DV rates soar by 29%.

I am so sick of this.

AIBU to think the multi-billion pound FA should contribute a generous amount of their World Cup profit to Women's Aid or DV shelters until their fans stop beating up women? No it's not their fault men attack women but rather than brushing the issue aside they should maybe embrace the fact that their sport contributes to so much violence, rather than sticking their heads in the sand?

DV is recorded as reported. Men carry out over 95% of DV and every health worker, A and E worker, refuge worker etc confirms that. When police attend and the woman is battered on the floor he says "she hit me first, I was defending myself" and it is recorded as DV to both parties.

It's utterly idiotic to repeat the tired MRA bullshit that women are equally violent.

No footballers and FA are not responsible for this, and should not contribute. But they should be contributing huge sums to grassroots womens football.

I suspect there may well be similar figures elsewhere in the world - it won't just be in England

What do you suggest then?

It's in my OP

Not really Sirzy. It's an idea that won't prevent DV, but provide better resources for victims, until it gets better. We can't keep the attitude that a plate campaign will do

The FA shouldn't be responsible for other people's actions. So therefore YABU.

A fact you're yet to substantiate in any way whatsoever.

I posted a link below. Unless you think DV doesn't really happen?

You haven't had a single poster support your stupid stance

Wrong. RTFT please.

Who would actually lose out if this happened?

"Because their fans keep beating women up. HTH."

A fact you're yet to substantiate in any way whatsoever.

Did you not read the poster in the original post?

I think it is a marvellous idea, and that alcohol companies should pay a % of their profits to DV charities - yes agree with that as well.

Weird how many people are literally falling over themselves to not blame the men for women being beaten up.

No you have suggested they give profits. What would you like done with that donation that will improve the situation?

eh... NO

No it's the men's faulting they beat the women up.
Not he FA that's what we're saying.

I think it may be more to the point for the FA to make a big deal of condemning domestic abuse at every opportunity and encouraging players, managers, etc to do the same.

This is an appalling statistic and it is the perfect time for every big name in the world of football to make it clear that, if you abuse other people in the name of the sport, it is because you are an insecure, cowardly bully who should be banned from watching football for life.

In fact, I would go so far as to say that by not speaking out against this abuse, the world of football is complicit in it.

TER Who is excusing men? Im certainly not, I’m saying we shouldn’t blame anything else apart from the men doing this.

Weird how many people are literally falling over themselves to not blame the men for women being beaten up.

Where has that happened?

Read slowly. Maybe out loud. Try running your finger under the words. You'll see that people blame the men and not the Football Association or breweries.

Can you show a single post which has excused men?

I thought "TERF" was a banned word now.

The FA do give money to charity though so what's the massive problem people have with that being to a DV charity?!
Do you all feel the same about give racism the red card and kick it out? Should the FA not try and stamp out racism because it's not there fault some of the fans are racist arseholes or is it a good thing that they are no longer tolerant of dickheads making monkey noises at black players?!

No I absolutely don't.

YABU. It's not the FA's fault that some of the fans are horrible people. The sport itself is hardly promoting violence - it's not got a lot of contact in it, especially compared to other sports like rugby, boxing or even basketball. It's the fans that are violent.

Clearly the solution is to not allow England to compete in the World Cup at all. That would stop the rise in DV

What would you like done with that donation that will improve the situation?

Donate towards Women's Aid or DV shelters.

Honestly though my OP was clear?

In fact, I would go so far as to say that by not speaking out against this abuse, the world of football is complicit in it.

I agree, but again I'm not sure a celebrity endorsed campaign would work. However good the intentions I don't think people are all for DV unless Ronaldo disagrees with it,

Weird how many people are literally falling over themselves to not blame the men for women being beaten up

I am literally blaming the men for women being beaten up. Not an outside organisation.

The sport itself is hardly promoting violence - it's not got a lot of contact in it, especially compared to other sports like rugby, boxing or even basketball. It's the fans that are violent

There’s a very interesting theory that if a sport is violent then the fans get a certain amount of catharsis from that and are less violent themselves

WA should be properly funded through the government. Threads such as this, which perpetuate the notion that WA should be a charity case, don't help.

Maybe you should draw up a list of triggers for male DV, and where you can associate that with a person or group, tax accordingly (that's what forced donations are after all). So if women advocating equal rights is seen as a trigger, perhaps those who believe in equal rights for women should put their hands in their pockets?

Look - the point is that no one is responsible for DV other than the perpetrators. Whatever triggers them does not make third parties responsible.

It's not about taking blame, it's about trying to help. Yes any violent man is 100% responsible for his actions but if the FA (and sports clubs and celebrity players) know they're in a position to help reduce the violence then they should.

If I made millions/billions from a sport which people used as an excuse to get wound up and violent I wouldn't feel responsible for them at all but I would make every realistic effort to make it clear I strongly disapproved of that (if I was a celebrity player I'd come right out after the game and say anyone who was violent was a dick, disgusted me and didn't deserve to watch football - I guarantee there'd be a number of men who'd think just a little deeper if their 'hero' was openly against DV).

I don't want to lay blame at the FA's door.

I'm simply saying, it's their sport that causes a rise in DV and to support victims they should make a donation to relevant charities. That's not admitting blame, that's being supportive. Don't worry about the ones who lose out, they're billionaires, they can cope with a bit of a financial loss

It disappoints, but doesn't surprise me, that so many people are enraged at the idea of women being helped, and that so many want to centre men

*What would you like done with that donation that will improve the situation?

Donate towards Women's Aid or DV shelters.*

So how does that actually do anything to prevent DV? I doubt somebody pissed up and raging and about to beat the shit out of his wife will suddenly thing "Oh shit, the FA might have to donate 0.0000001% of their infinitesimal wealth to Women's Aid if I don't calm down!"

Yabu.

It’s just wrong to expect that of an organisation.