To think the FA should give a sizeable donation to Women's Aid?

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During the World Cup, if England lose, DV rates soar by 38%

If England win or draw, DV rates soar by 29%.

I am so sick of this.

AIBU to think the multi-billion pound FA should contribute a generous amount of their World Cup profit to Women's Aid or DV shelters until their fans stop beating up women? No it's not their fault men attack women but rather than brushing the issue aside they should maybe embrace the fact that their sport contributes to so much violence, rather than sticking their heads in the sand?

If you had bothered to read my second paragraph, I did say we will never eradicate it.

The perpetrator should be made to leave

Only to come back when the police are gone and potentially murder them. They leave for their safety, it's why shelters don't publicise their whereabouts, so women can't be found by their abusive partners.

I've been there for more than one friend who's had to uproot their entire lives to leave the only home their children have ever known and it's so traumatic, but they'd never choose to stay somewhere their husband could get to them.

The excuse of "I wanted all my kids to have one dad" just doesn't cut it for me.

I've never seen this as a reason for staying in an abusive relationship. Your posts smack of victim blaming Sandy. Not every woman has the guts, the money or the means to Up sticks and leave at the drop of a hat

It happened for years in Glasgow when the Old Firm matches (between Celtic and Rangers) were played. I think the police in the city launched a specific campaign to tell the idiot hooligans that they shouldn't be doing this

gunpowder “Yes, a poster campaign will do the trick”

That’s your quote.

Excellent idea

My Dsis friend has just escaped an abusive relationship and I'm so happy for her. He used to beat her, raped her and has given her more than one STD...
If she had no employment she'd be stuffed. You can't rely on donations and must take control of your life.

So what do you propose SAHM do? Or is that 'relying on donations'?

I for one think women trapped in abusive relationships should absolutely access as many donations as they can.

Don't be obtuse Nick it was clearly sarcastic. I've come across many a stupid poster but never one who argues so passionately against helping abused women. You must be so proud

How have I argued against helping abused women?!

Well you don't think it's useful to donate to shelters for a start

If you can find where I said that, then knock yourself out.

Getting to the root of the violence is key, not throwing up some bricks

The perpetrator should be made to leave and the victim should be allowed to keep the property and children wouldn't have to be uprooted, especially as shelters won't accept pets. In an ideal world this would happen, but these women are not living in an ideal world they are living in a version of hell.

Having these resources available for women to use are so important. Alot are in emotionally abusive relationships as well as physical and its not as simple as saying, well he is violent I am going to leave. They get controlled by these thugs.

Also, alot have to leave so that they can start their life again somewhere else anonymous because they have been threatened with being killed or their children being killed or family members being killed if they leave.

Having the FA launch a campaign and donations would massivley help raise awareness of this at a crucial time. They would be raising awareness of something directly happening as a result of a football score. Soemthing many people would have no clue about or would even think about. Womens shelters are vital and a lifeline to many women who otherwise would have no where to go once they find the courage to run.

These stats are replicated outside the UK, during the Super Bowl in the US. Op YANBU. No one is blaming the FA, that's a ridiculous assertion.

I would have no issue with the FA running an awareness campaign.

I have every issue with organisations being forced to donate to causes.

gunpowder I don't think that quote backs up your accusation that I am against helping abused women.

I don't think building more shelters does get to the root of violence, no. I would far rather we work towards a world where ideally fewer women and children need these place however that is easier said than done.

I'm certainly not anti-shelter!

You do know that most cases of DV towards men goes without being reported don't you? This is due to them not being taken seriously and the stigma attached to it?

You do know that most cases of DV towards men goes without being reported don't you? This is due to them not being taken seriously and the stigma attached to it?

Maybe men need to start trying to address this.

The quote earlier about a slim majority of sexual assaults in prison being by women - there clearly must be statistics suggesting that because I heard someone else say it on the radio, but where is the evidence? There are about 4000 female prisoners and about 80000 male prisoners in the UK. This link from the Howard League suggests that there are about 300 reported sexual assaults a year among prisoners. Clearly that will be far from the total number. Interviews suggest about 1% of prisoners suffering sexual assault. I just can't see where this 'women prisonews commit more sexual assault' comes from.

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=howardleague.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Coercive-sex-in-prison.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwipyOSSxd3bAhUmKsAKHfNDBMYQFjADegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw2MZ7DIh9JG_HTuFeBOt9b4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Howard league report

Ive never seen this as a reason for staying in an abusive relationship. Your posts smack of victim blaming Sandy. Not every woman has the guts, the money or the means to Up sticks and leave at the drop of a hat

That you've never seen it, doesn't mean it's not been said. I've seen it and I'm not making it up. Why would I.

Not every woman has the money...I'm not disputing that. That's why thry need to be financially independent and able to generate the money to leave.

That's why they need to know what a healthy relationship looks like...why they need self worth and the confidence to know they shouldn't be in such relationships.

I can tell you that money isn't the only reason women stay. Other reasons are self esteem being low and the status of being married. The sooner the message gets through...that a woman's worth isn't determined by marital status the better.

They don't have the guts that's where their self esteem and self worth kicks in.

You could have THE FA and other organisations donate...but women will still be in abusive relationships...until they realise their self worth.

“it's their sport that causes a rise in DV”

Correlation does not equate to causation

I don't think the FA should be taxed (a forced donation) for DV. There are so many issues that could be suitable for donations - how about those encouraging fitness, helping young people, grass roots sport, disability sport...

Women's Aid has worked with the FA.

www.womensaid.org.uk/what-we-do/football-united/

The FA has nominated charities- I think changes every two years, currently Bobby Moore Fund that focus on bowel cancer. They have supported Teenage Cancer Trust and Breast Cancer Care.

www.thefa.com/news/2016/jul/28/bobby-moore-fund-becomes-charity-partner-290716

www.thefa.com/news/2015/jan/01/the-football-association-and-social-responsibility

first date question : ' do you get upset if your team lose? '
if answer is yes, no second date. We can breed this out in a generation.