To think the FA should give a sizeable donation to Women's Aid?

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During the World Cup, if England lose, DV rates soar by 38%

If England win or draw, DV rates soar by 29%.

I am so sick of this.

AIBU to think the multi-billion pound FA should contribute a generous amount of their World Cup profit to Women's Aid or DV shelters until their fans stop beating up women? No it's not their fault men attack women but rather than brushing the issue aside they should maybe embrace the fact that their sport contributes to so much violence, rather than sticking their heads in the sand?

It disappoints, but doesn't surprise me, that so many people are enraged at the idea of women being helped, and that so many want to centre men

Except you actually have NO clue what posters do to assist WA and other similar organisations. Disagreeing with your premise that the FA should be - in effect - fined doesn’t mean that people don’t want women to be helped. That’s a bizarre leap.

No we just don't think an external organisations should be responsible for a violent man's action.

If a violent man used a car to hurt a women should the car manufacture say our car played a part so we must pay?
Knife manufactures?
Plastic bags?
Cricket bats?

Op. You are missing my point. With their donation, what would you like to see it spent on that isn't already being done? Genuine question.

We are all against violence against women.
We're not in support of an organisation being fined for something they didn't do

So how does that actually do anything to prevent DV?

I didn't say it would prevent DV - I said it would give better resources for victims of DV.

I imagine there are women up and down the country utterly terrified because they know what's coming tonight. A poster campaign won't help them but resources, more well equipped shelters and more places to go certainly will.

The FA cannot fix DV, it's a much bigger problem, but they can easily contribute and make things better for victims while the rest of us try and tackle the root of the problem

No we just don't think an external organisations should be responsible for a violent man's action.

Neither do I. Making a donation doesn't mean accepting responsibility

I think football culture and the FA having a track record of treating women as less than human are part of the problem that leads to DV.

Op. You are missing my point. With their donation, what would you like to see it spent on that isn't already being done? Genuine question.

Once again, better shelters, more shelters, more resources. Is it really that hard to think what victims of DV might need if they flee their home?

But you're saying they must pay as their fans do it. Meaning they mustvtake responsibility for fans action that they have no control over

We're not in support of an organisation being fined for something they didn't do

Who said anything about a fine?

And as I've asked before - if the FA did donate, who loses?

Meaning they mustvtake responsibility for fans action that they have no control over

Please read my posts. I'm saying they should help as its fans that they profit off. I didn't say they were responsible for them

And as I've asked before - if the FA did donate, who loses

One of the other charities it donates to? The FA is a charitable partner of Breast Cancer UK - should we take from that pot?

And how does building more shelters prevent DV? Having children leave their homes, friends and possessions. Or is that too hard for you to think about?

Getting to the root of the violence is key, not throwing up some bricks.

One of the other charities it donates to? The FA is a charitable partner of Breast Cancer UK - should we take from that pot?

Why would it have to come from a different charity? Why couldn't they set up a brand new fund? They can certainly afford it!

And how does building more shelters prevent DV?

It doesn't. As I've said lots already it's not about prevention.

I think that is a great idea. Obvioulsy they are not personally to blame for the rise in DV but they are heavily linked to it and anything they can be seen to be doing to help combat this and raise awareness would be a good thing.

I also think it wouldn't go amiss for some footballers on extortionate salaries to be seen on billboards/adverts/campaigns to get the word out there that they do not under any circumstances, win or lose, condone this.

The rise in DV is going to be mostly men against women. No amount of being politically correct or not sexist or whatever you want to call it is going to change this fact.

I disagree.

What we need to do is get the message through to women that they should not stay in an abusive relationship.

It's down to the individual woman to know what's acceptable. If England lose 100 - 0 ...it makes no difference to whether I will be beaten up or not.

Women need to be educated ... self sufficient and confident in themselves... so that abusive men are not a part of their lives.

Parents need to show their daughters what a healthy relationship looks like...so they know not to put up with crap.

If they can't be happy together.. they should separate.

I often wonder who the parents of these abusers are. What did they teach their sons about respect and love.

Getting to the root of the violence is key, not throwing up some bricks.

OK so should we shut down all DV shelters if they're so useless?

I think this is a great idea. It’s a gesture in acknowledgment of the fact that DV rates increase with the World Cup.

What we need to do is get the message through to women that they should not stay in an abusive relationship.

It's easier to leave an abusive relationship if you have the resources to do so, hence my post

They can certainly afford it!

You know the FA is a not-for-profit organisation, right?

So you want a continuous donation from the FA until the fans stop beating up women?

It's the women in the gardens behind us who are the violent ones here!

I saw this statistic and shared it.

I think the point of the graphic is to highlight and raise awareness of domestic abuse, and the ways in which seemingly benign events can influence an abuser's mood and level of violence. I don't think it was intended to vilify football.

I think you're missing the point a bit, OP.

There’s a very interesting theory that if a sport is violent then the fans get a certain amount of catharsis from that and are less violent themselves

I thought that was a Freudian theory that had been disproved. I could be a wrong though - all my psychology knowledge has been obtained in bits and pieces from my doctor SIL.

A question I'd like to ask in all of this is how do children grown up into physically abusive adults?

Surely that's what needs to be looked at?