To think the FA should give a sizeable donation to Women's Aid?

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During the World Cup, if England lose, DV rates soar by 38%

If England win or draw, DV rates soar by 29%.

I am so sick of this.

AIBU to think the multi-billion pound FA should contribute a generous amount of their World Cup profit to Women's Aid or DV shelters until their fans stop beating up women? No it's not their fault men attack women but rather than brushing the issue aside they should maybe embrace the fact that their sport contributes to so much violence, rather than sticking their heads in the sand?

3/10 for effort

I think it's a good idea. The FA and UEFA could take the opportunity to fund a short burst campaign during football season to draw attention to DV, let people know that there's help out there in various forms.

Jacques maybe they can take it from the millions they give to football clubs each year?

@They can certainly afford it!
You know the FA is a not-for-profit organisation, right?

But that just means that they don't pay dividends out to shareholders, not that they operate on a shoestring and not that they have no money.

A question I'd like to ask in all of this is how do children grown up into physically abusive adults?

Surely that's what needs to be looked at?

Maybe they could donate money for research into this then?

Do we know if this statistic is replicated outside of the UK? Does the FA need to donate to DV causes in every participating country? Or does the UK get special priority because it's the UK fans who make the decision to beat up their women while the Swedish fans choose not to? Or are there other causes they need to address in other countries? Perhaps in countries in completely different time zones they need to donate to workplaces who lose staff because the fans are too tired to work after watching the games at 4am.
Yes I know all these thoughts are ridiculous...

Whilst I don't think there should be any obligation for the FA to donate to WA, I do think then raising awareness of domestic violence would be a positive strip forward. Mostly just condemning the actions of DV perpetrators would be enough to show that they do not associate themselves with those types of 'fans'.

What we need to do is get the message through to women that they should not stay in an abusive relationship.

That is another message the FA could help a great deal to get across.

Ugh, excuse typos.

gunpowder Did I say they were useless? Convenient that you cherry pick a sentence to take umbrage with and ignore the rest of my post.

DV was around long long before the FA was in existence.

Obviously a donation by the FA to Women’s Aid wouldn’t solve the problem of DV. I don’t think the OP has suggested it would.

But what is needed to address the problem is a massive cultural shift. That won’t happen overnight, but if the FA would publicly condemn the spike in domestic violence during and after England games and make a donation to Women’s Aid - or partner with Women’s Aid - then that would be a very powerful gesture.

The FA does donate to a lot of charities by the way. It partners with them. I think it’s partnered with Breast Cancer Care in the past. So it’s not like the OP’s suggestion is totally wild and off the wall - she isn’t suggesting that the government fines the FA because of these statistics.

I feel so sorry for the thousands of women who must be dreading tonight.

They should also donate to a men's domestic violence charity as well then surely? Not as much as women's aid but whatever the equivalent for men is too?

Do rates of DV against men go up when the Lionesses are playing, then?

Come on, we know there is some DV against men but most, by far, violent crime is committed by men. Male violence is the main problem in our society.

I agree with your sentiment. However:

I'm simply saying, it's their sport that causes a rise in DV

That’s obviously just not true. The sport doesn’t cause a rise in DV. The actions of men who are already abusive and in high stress situations, react more violently cause a rise in DV.

So, yeah they have the Love The Game campaign. And yes, they could donate money to DV charities and acknowledge the stats that it increases around World Cup time.

But let’s be very certain to leave the blame where it lies and nowhere else.

DV was around long long before the FA was in existence.

Was it!! Didn't know that

You say it would be pointless to make better resources for shelters. Why?

"Male violence is the main problem in our society."

I'd have gone for single-use plastic or global warming or Brexit. Depends on your agenda of course ...

Because I would like to see DV stats decrease, which in turn would result in less need for shelters.

However, eradicating it completely is never gonna happen so I think the best we can hope for is educating from a young age. And yes, even though you think it’s useless, at some point that would involve posters placed in strategically thought out locations.

It's a shocking but unsurprising statistic.I think it's a combination of football and increased alcohol intake.

I don't think it can be expected of the FA to donate, but agree that they could show some support in some way and acknowledge they understand that this happens. The blame, however, is purely and 100% down to the perp.

Totally off topic but it really irritates me that victims of domestic violence have to flee their homes.
The perpetrator should be made to leave and the victim should be allowed to keep the property and children wouldn't have to be uprooted, especially as shelters won't accept pets.

It's easier to leave an abusive relationship if you have the resources to do so, hence my post

But if women are educated and self sufficient...they don't need to be at the mercy of donations.

It's about recognising abuse early on and walking away, before you have kids or at least to have the good sense not to continue having kids with an abuser.

The times I see threads saying DH is abusive and I have 3.. 4..5 or more DC . *Why would you continue to do this making making an escape much more difficult...when your a SAHM.

The excuse of "I wanted all my kids to have one dad" just doesn't cut it for me.

My Dsis friend has just escaped an abusive relationship and I'm so happy for her. He used to beat her, raped her and has given her more than one STD...
If she had no employment she'd be stuffed. You can't rely on donations and must take control of your life.

I do think that raising awareness of domestic violence would be a positive step forward

I agree with this.

I object, on grounds that if the FA or alcohol company gives money to Domestic Violence charities, abusive men will tell their wives that they can beat them as they’ve already paid for it.

Also, giving money to women’s shelters won’t actually prevent the DV in the first place. An earnest message from some famous footballers at half-time would be far more effective.

(Also, I disagree with the principle of fiddly little taxes for every pet cause, with ringfencing of funds regardless of actual need.)

What a strange thread. I donate to Women's Aid every month, it doesn't mean I am accepting responsibility for domestic violence. Big organisations like the FA donate to multiple charities. Donating to Women's Aid would be no different to them donating to Cancer Research (except it clearly is for a lot of people). I think it's a good idea OP.

SandyY2K there is an awful lot you clearly do not understand about how coercive control works.

Because I would like to see DV stats decrease, which in turn would result in less need for shelters

We are a long way before DV stats decrease and even then we'd need the ones we have. They are few and far between and massively oversubscribed

And yes, even though you think it’s useless, at some point that would involve posters placed in strategically thought out locations.

Please don't lie about what I said. I think you'll find I made a whole post about educating from a young age about DV