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Children kept in cages - Texas

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JerushaAbbott · 18/06/2018 04:31

This article in the Guardian today: Children in cages.

What can a non-US citizen do? I know there are undoubtedly worse atrocities happening somewhere in the world, but this article has shocked me.

When I was younger I was involved in anti-apartheid demos, CND, Greenham etc. Now I feel hopeless.

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woman11017 · 19/06/2018 19:35

Current British detention centres:
Brook House, Gatwick
Campsfield House, Oxfordshire
Colnbrook, Middlesex
Dungavel House, South Lanarkshire
Harmondsworth, Middlesex
Larne House, Antrim
Morton Hall, Lincolnshire
Pennine House, Manchester
Tinsley House, Gatwick
Yarl's Wood, Bedfordshire
detentionaction.org.uk/frequently-asked-questions
Children in British detention centres:
www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/what_we_do/childrens_services/working_with_age_disputed_children/children_in_detention

Terrible treatment of many vulnerable and innocent people and their children in british detention centres, held indefinitely with no charge. It has been very difficult for politicians and media to gain access to them. Medical doctors have been very critical of the conditions they have found in them.

But no British children in detention camps are separated from their parents and put in cages. I hope.

The good news is the number of leading Republicans speaking out against this in the US, and the Christian organisations who did suppport Trump but cannot support this.

I hope the visit here is cancelled.

woman11017 · 19/06/2018 19:36

x post there JerushaAbbott Blush

Blerg · 20/06/2018 10:23

Anyone horrified by this may want to lend their voice via this Amnesty International action - it takes no time at all: www.amnesty.org.uk/actions/usa-families-belong-together

Sorry if this has been shared already. I can't deal with the comments saying this is ok to be totally honest.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 20/06/2018 11:10

Thank you for the link blerg.

MedicinalGin · 20/06/2018 11:51

Be careful here people- there is so much whataboutism going on! It’s a classic trumpet (formerly soviet) technique, isn’t it- a poster will respond to your perfectly justifiable outrage by presenting a wholly different issue, clouded with opaque and inaccurate detail, in order to confuse you and make you feel stupid and muddled.

Don’t fall for it!!!

Remember where your moral high ground is and stay firmly atop it. Separating children from their families is wrong- this conversation is not about Obama, it is not about Britain; it is about Donald Trump’s USA today, right now. Anyone who fails to condemn this is either complicit, or morally bankrupt or both.

BlooperReel · 20/06/2018 11:59

I caught a snippet of the recording of those poor children crying for their parents on tv, I had to switch over, my stomach turned. How, just how, can anyone justify this? How can anyone working there sleep at night. :(

Anyone attempting to argue this is ok is a stain on humanity.

Battleax · 21/06/2018 06:14

Trump has signed the executive order to stop it;

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/20/donald-trump-pledges-to-end-family-separations-by-executive-order

Battleax · 21/06/2018 06:14

Just goes to show that he’s not immune to public pressure.

longwayoff · 21/06/2018 06:37

Charolais. A variety of cow is it not?

TwoBlueShoes · 21/06/2018 06:41

The executive order doesn’t stop the zero tolerance policy though. He’s just doing the minimum to get the public off his back.

gamerwidow · 21/06/2018 06:43

battleaxe good! I hope no one tries to gives him credit for it though.Signing a executive order to stop caging children after you caged children and people noticed and got pissed off does not count as a praiseworthy action.

Battleax · 21/06/2018 06:52

Well o f course he’ll try to take credit, but he can’t erase what happened.

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