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Staying off work with sick spouse

243 replies

Sashkin · 16/06/2018 23:51

Just posting to see whose expectations are unreasonable here.

Spouse A is off work this week to supervise builders. Toddler came down with 24hr vomiting bug on Thursday night, so both parents were up most of Thursday night changing sheets/cleaning up toddler, and spouse A looked after him during the day on Friday (usually goes to nursery).

A came down with toddler’s bug on Friday night and was up vomiting. Spouse B is working twelve hour shifts this weekend (doctor). Should B have called in sick on Saturday morning to look after toddler so A could catch up on their sleep?

To avoid dripfeeding: Toddler was completely recovered by then, so A was doing normal childcare not mopping up toddler’s sick as well as their own. A finds solo childcare stressful at the best of times, and was in tears on Saturday morning at the thought of looking after toddler on minimal sleep.

B argues that B has done childcare in worse circumstances without complaint, and calling in sick would not be fair or safe on their patients or colleagues (departing night shift doctor would have had to stay to cover B’s shift, ie a 24hr shift), plus B is likely to be applying for consultant job in this trust in next few months so wants to avoid any perception of flakiness.

A says hospital cover is hospital’s problem not A or B’s problem, and should come second to toddler’s needs. A has long resented B’s job requiring evening and weekend work - A is self employed and much better paid than B, and does not see why B is working 60hr weeks to detriment of family life. Similar problems during B’s nightshifts with A angry that B is leaving A to parent alone overnight.

It’s probably obvious which parent I am, but I have tried to be fair to both sides. Would you expect your spouse to take the day off work to look after the children if you were ill but the children weren’t?

OP posts:
Onlyoldontheoutside · 17/06/2018 00:15

A needs to know that there is no extra weekend cover also that sick days(is when you are not sick) cannot be taken for spouses sickness.He should also know that the NHS has a rather punitive way of dealing with sickness.
If this is part of a bigger picture of a deteriorating relationship then decide what you are going to do before your applications you for a consultant post comes up other wise you will earn the most as his self-employed wages appear on paper as zilch.
It is very hard marrying someone who knows what you do for work,the hours you work and makes it all harder for resenting it when you are off work.

SD1978 · 17/06/2018 00:17

A being in tears seems a bit much- do they feel that B’s job is coming before the family, and the family are less important? Or juts being a tad dramatic?

Bambamber · 17/06/2018 00:17

YANBU

It's really difficult to look after a young energetic child when you've been Ill and sleep deprived, but I think your partners resentment towards your job and their tiredness is probably clouding their judgement. Do you have any local support that could help your partner while you're at work?

SleepingStandingUp · 17/06/2018 00:20

LipstickHandbagCoffee.
Look,get in to work you’re not unwell.stop inventing what ifs and maybes
If you’re unwell stay off. But weren’t unwell,so go in. All then mental gymnastics to justify wanting a day off

I think you might have got confused reading the op

LadyLoveYourWhat · 17/06/2018 00:20

You can't ring in sick if you are not sick. You could ask to have the day off to cover a domestic emergency, but really A just has to suck it up. I would probably try to get the day off if my partner was in the midst of a vomiting bug, you can't look after a toddler in that case, but not just to catch up on sleep, you just have a pyjama day with loads of Thomas (or whatever) DVDs. The world will not end.

TheClitterati · 17/06/2018 00:21

A spends day on sofa.
Toddler spends day in front of telly.
B goes to work.

Sashkin · 17/06/2018 00:22

@NQWM no, he couldn’t imagine anyone would have a problem with me ringing to say I wasn’t coming in to a weekend on call because my husband was ill so I had to look after DS. He wasn’t suggesting I should lie. I suppose “take a day of parental leave” is more accurate than “call in sick”.

OP posts:
LipstickHandbagCoffee · 17/06/2018 00:22

I’m not confused in least. All the shall I pander to A it’s a bit tiresome
I’m afraid A is being overly dramatic and no B doesn’t need to feign Illness
So no lies,no made up sickie.go to work

jacks11 · 17/06/2018 00:22

Should B be going to work as a doctor when possibly about to come down with a vomitting bug?

Made me LOL. I am a Dr. If I did not go to work every time I "might" have been exposed to a bug, I'd rarely be at work. Even if you only counted the times it was someone I had come into close contact on numerous occasions (i.e. family member or work colleague, for instance), it would be very frequent. Add in direct exposure from patients with known infections and it would be even more so. The hospitals and GP surgeries would have a significantly reduced workforce (not just Dr's all HCPs and support/admin staff) on a daily basis.

It's different if OP had symptoms- feeling unwell, nausea etc. However, as she has not mentioned this we can assume that she does feel well and has no symptoms yet. With proper hand hygiene and so on, and possibly from having built up some immunity over the years of exposure, it is not inevitable that you will catch every vomiting illness your child or close family member has. I know I have certainly managed to avoid most bugs my children had.

With regards to OP: no YANBU. He's tired, but this kind of scenario is part and parcel of being a parent so he needs to get on with it. Also, you are not sick and so should not call, pretending to be sick.

Candlelight123 · 17/06/2018 00:25

A needs to stop being soft, and has unrealistic expectations of when you can call in sick. It's not pleasant looking after a 3 yo when I'll but people do this all the time.

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 17/06/2018 00:26

Clearly he A doesn’t understand rota,workload or impact upon others
If it were sick child.colleagues would sympathise. Gripey partner no sympathy.nadda
It’s a wholly unreasonable request. Is there an underlying resentment

victoriaspongecake · 17/06/2018 00:28

Noone should 'call in sick' if they themselves are not sick. Simple.

Homebird8 · 17/06/2018 00:28

I assume A was long since in bed when you got home as toddler was?

SleepingStandingUp · 17/06/2018 00:32

LipstickHandbagCoffee
you’re not unwell.stop inventing what ifs and maybes
All then mental gymnastics to justify wanting a day off

Op isn't trying to justify a day off, she's saying is she wrong because she went in. She thinks she should have gone in, she went in, and now she's being called a bad mom fit going in

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 17/06/2018 00:37

Bold all you want, I do actually get what’s going on
I’m talking about the melodrama that is A&B
Hypotheticals of shall I go in. No don’t go in. What does one do? But A wants

ColdCottage · 17/06/2018 00:39

If A is very ill then B should stay and look after child.

If A is a bit ill then A should be able to manage a toddler with a day of tv and snacks for both.

quizqueen · 17/06/2018 00:40

Are doctors supposed to turn up for work if they have been in contact with a sickness bug? If the hospital says yes then childcare is the other parents responsibility on that day no matter how tired they are.

Sashkin · 17/06/2018 00:40

No he stayed up so we could have this row unfortunately!

Re past resentment: he has always felt that the job came first, then him. Since DS was born, he has felt that my priorities shifted to DS, then job, then him. I’d say that is due to DS being utterly dependent on us, and work being utterly inflexible. But he does resent it, yes. He was much happier when I was on maternity leave and he had a SAHW.

Equally he doesn’t value work much (lots of creative interests instead), is successful enough that he isn’t particularly ambitious for more, and as he’s self employed he sets his own hours and working conditions so isn’t very in tune with how inflexible the majority of employers are.

The relationship is fine generally, but this argument keeps coming up in one form or another.

OP posts:
ColdCottage · 17/06/2018 00:41

P.s I would call in sick if I had to look after my child if other adult was too ill to do so. I would explain I had to look after my child as nobody else was able to.

abitoflight · 17/06/2018 00:44

Both doctors here.
No I would not call in sick not would my DH in similar circumstances
Call in sick to look after another adult who was tired from looking after child??? No and it would be looked upon very dimly
would never have crossed my mind tbh
I've been in hospital with DC and DH worked and vice versa
With DH job he's absent for tons of stuff - it's the way it is
And in my job I've taken sick children from school, wrapped them in duvet and given them an iPad and put them in a nearby office to do my outpatient clinic

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 17/06/2018 00:44

and he had a SAHW you’re not a possession to be admired at home
You’re a professional working woman in a monolithic huge organisation
He’s 1 person,working flexibly. He clearly doesn’t get the Rota,departmental politics,rotationsey

SleepingStandingUp · 17/06/2018 00:46

LipstickHandbagCoffee your accusing her of wanting to justify a day off when she clearly isn't.

CherryBerryChapstick · 17/06/2018 00:47

A has to suck it up, I’m a single parent & have to do it with no support

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 17/06/2018 00:47

Err,naw
Do keep up sleeping

SleepingStandingUp · 17/06/2018 00:49

Well not sure how I've misinterpreted you’re not unwell. stop inventing what ifs and maybes. All then mental gymnastics to justify wanting a day off but apparently that sentence isn't saying op is trying to justify a day off. Hey ho.