To wonder how many of you are ready for hard Brexit now

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I took on the mantle to start another thread. If that is not allowed, Mods delete the thread, I am not sure of the protocol. But it certainly is an interesting discussion!

If allowed to stay as my OP, let's go!

Of course they won't give us money back! The gym scenario mentioned earlier explains why. You were a member. You paid. You left the gym because you didn't like it and have to pay for the rest of the time you signed up for. And then you fancy a swim and ask if you can't just use the pool occasionally....and call them unfair when they say um NO.

Being in the Customs Union restricts UK making other free trade deals outside the CU in the national interest though.

I thought that a big premise of Brexit was to be able to arrange trade deals with any country. Not going to happen without hard Brx.

They have to compensate us for the lack of access if they refuse us access to a service we've paid for.
I think I know a tad but more on this one.

@siwel123 when you negotiate, you work out what the other side really wants or expects to get and you see what they are prepared to concede to get it. And what your own concession will cost you. Far from a certainty what we'll get and what we won't get.

Siwel....nooooooo 😥you’re a Brexiter???

Well do tell us more siwel, we like to be educated by our betters!

Tell me this isn’t true?

I understand how negotiations work .
But they will still have to compensate us if they kick us out of Galileo system.

Ah yes, but what about a Customs Union and UK's ability to arrange free trade outside that Union?

@Luisa27. Oh dear God no . I voted remain don't panic.

If you want to know why I think I understand more on this little bit of brexit well....
I'm working on it tada
Not that I'm an expert on anything else brexit but I'm project managing the conversion of some laws from EU to UK and advising on Galileo project.

But we are not just negotiating over Galileo. Maybe they are prepared to play hardball in that (and as you think, lose money and/or functionality) to get something else. These things do not operate in isolation.

@siwel123 - I won't tell you what I do but I know for certain that nothing is off the table or on it.

I understand that, @lostinsunshine.

@lostinsunshine. Ooh secret squirrel

Phew siwel...had to have a little lie down then

Lost, Siwel can’t you bods ‘in the know’ help stop this madness.
Per favore 🙏

Oh I wish. But I think we would get lynched, so I have to go along and try get the best deal

Sssshh - you’ll have the likes of JRM accusing the civil service of trying to thwart Brexit 🤫

Again it's highly unlikely they will refuse us access to it. As then we would not be able to share any security info with them and them with us if we were seen as a danger to security

Sharing security info on say returning ISIS fighters or a terrorist plot etc is not the same as having access to the software code of Galileo, to reject the former would be spiting our nose etc, we cannot seriously expect to remain a part of Galileo, an EU project, its not a question of security risk, i doubt the EU will be sharing this stuff with Australia/Japan or the USA.
Compensation sure, that can be negotiated.

JRM - who parades his poor children on instagram every minute of the day

We would have to be compensated if they did kick us out as we would lose a large part of our security capability.

Presumably we d have to continue with the USA and GPS ? you know that special relationship.......