To stockpile food, medicine and petrol?

[Laudanumm]

So apparently we're now at very high risk of exiting the EU in March without a trade agreement with the EU. The government wanted to keep it secret, but it's been leaked that the middle of the 3 outcomes they're discussing, so not the bad one, is the port of Dover collapsing on day 1, immediate food shortages and almost immediate petrol and medicine shortages - as in, no food in the supermarkets. It's in the Sunday Times. AIBU to start stockpiling?

To be clear it's for the

and this is what we will end up doing with brexit

Imports will not be affected provided UK impose zero tarrifs on EU imports surely, even short term, and with an EU brand on board.

Non EU imports.... carry on as you were, nothing will change.

Can someone tell me how wrong I might be WRT EU imports? Surely there will be a non tariff application until Brexit happens..uh oh twenty years. OK

Yes we do! Netherlands, Belgium etc - are you intentionally being stupid?
Plus in the North Sea the cost of labour will rise, the interest on the bank loans the platforms are financed with will rise, no eu companies will want to invest.
It’s not just about where the petrol comes from! This is what gets me about leavers - they seem to have absolutely no idea how the financial systems work or how interconnected our world is now

Uh OK, maybe EU will apply tariffs to UK exports.

Either way, this is a total disaster isn't it, no matter what side you are on. And so unnecessary too.

Will be interesting to see how much of our taxpayer money has been expended so far in the Department of Exit and all the rest of it.

Keyboard Kate - it’s the cost of finance that drives up petrol prices as well as supply

Plus the value of the pound

OK but is it necessary?

I think it is a disaster waiting to happen. And the fear is, that the Government and all the Departments do not have a clue what to expect either. Well maybe they do and are scared to tell us.

I can't believe how quickly we have gone from 'sunlit uplands and Brexit promising prosperity for all' to 'it won't be that bad'. Even just staying at the same level we are now is off the table of Brexit promises. Every type of Brexit makes us poorer according to our own Brexit promoting gov modelling. Why are we doing this? What do we gain?

I always said, even before the ref, that NI and Gibraltar were the most important issues for me and the economy was the least of our worries, I'm not so sure anymore.

Banks don’t loan to build and maintain an oil platform and keep it on thier books as a variable rate loan. Those sorts of infrastructure deals are farmed out further on. On long term contracts. In fixed rates of interest. Rates rising won’t help other things. And then there is the fact that the GbP will presumably depreciate, (otherwise why would interest rates go up given rates represent the cost of money and demand for money will have gone down in your scenario so rates would usually go the same way) and oil isn’t priced in GBP so oil companies will have more money in GBP terms anyway.

Why will labour costs rise for North Sea workers? Are they suddenly going to demand pay rises? When everyone else is loosing their jobs due to a disastrous Brexit they won’t be asking for more money, that’s for sure...

Costs will go up because costs will go up. That seems to be what you are saying.

there is usually variability in a banking loan x % over base rate interest rates

Yes there’s numerous banks involved in financing an oil platform for example - many of them from the eu who will be less keen to invest in British assets because of the uncertainty

Of course most companies hedge against exchange rates if they can but it still does impact cost

Labour costs will go up as most the current oil work force immigrants who won’t be there

I’m interested to know how much of the UK Rumboogie thinks is concreted over?

Also locked up in a government safe:-
Casualty estimates, evacuation plans etc. for a nuclear explosion in central London and for an asteroid hitting Birmingham.
Protocols for first alien contact.
Detailed plans for invading Iceland.
PS. The port of Dover collapses and closes with 60mph winds - something that occurs at least once each year.

@applesandpears 'Labour costs will go up as most the current oil work force immigrants who won’t be there'???
Where have you actually got this information from? My husband works on petrochemical sites all over the country, has done for over 30 years now and most of the people he works with, and always has, are British. There's a 'rule' that all employees MUST be paid the same hourly rate and bonus, no matter where they come from ( as it should be), this means that it's not financially beneficial for the companies to use immagrants, they don't get any 'cheap labour'. Basically they choose the best people for the job, wherever they come from, so I'm not quite sure why labour costs are suddenly going to skyrocket ?

We should all be prepared for the zombie apocalypse.

Or we should stop taking the mick out of people for deciding to prepare for a possible serious event.

Kursk how long after your experience from your hotel did you decide to leave the UK?
Now that you’re in the USA why do you think that prepping is a necessity? Is it just part of your daily routine?

Spermysextowel

We left the UK 3 years after that. I found the UK overpopulated, and I didn’t trust the government. I felt that if a scenario such as social unrest happened, We would not have the best chance of surviving. When we moved we chose to live remotely, Prepping is part of daily life for us because of that. We want to be as self sufficient as possible.

I feel safe where we live but I don’t like any town or city.

mummymeister but it was NOT a landslide victory so I'll moan if I want to thank you vey much. I say this because I see the real effects on research (you know the research that saves lives (even possibly yours one day)). All the new large research consortiums involving H2020 (and FP9 although we do not know our situation on that yet) funding are actively seeking not to have UK coordinating institutions or seeking not to have them at all. Very experienced researchers are moving back countries to Europe.

The result of this being that British research will suffer and that does affect everyone in this country whether you like it or not.

Sorry but I think you are being neurotic !

Well said , you sound like a very sensible women ☺

The well said was for you PaddyFOdder !

Keyboardkate , the government spent millions of pounds mailing every household in Britain a remain leaflet !

Pledge?

Only semi serious

If my dh can't get hold of his epilepsy meds (Only get 6 weeks at a time) and has a seizure and can't drive for a year, does he get compensation?
Last time this happened he lost his job.

As said, the millenium bug was a fabrication, but gave a few COBOL programmers a bit of work in the lead up.

As said by who?!?! I personally worked on the millenium bug for 6 years - SIX YEARS - prior to the date - and am not a COBOL programmer. So the "bug" was invisible and things carried on seamlessly - because we worked on it for SIX YEARS....

There is a bigger problem looming for 2038 (the end of Unix 32 bit time as we know it) and that is currently being planned for - for TWENTY YEARS time, with hopes that it will simply go away, but dread that it will have to be dealt with in the same way.