To stockpile food, medicine and petrol?

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So apparently we're now at very high risk of exiting the EU in March without a trade agreement with the EU. The government wanted to keep it secret, but it's been leaked that the middle of the 3 outcomes they're discussing, so not the bad one, is the port of Dover collapsing on day 1, immediate food shortages and almost immediate petrol and medicine shortages - as in, no food in the supermarkets. It's in the Sunday Times. AIBU to start stockpiling?

Oh God I wish whingers would stop banging on about Brexit. Get over it

So you would rather we sit and let the government do qhatever it qants with our future?
People voted for brexit and yes it should happen. However we should surely be allowed to at least discuss what we want from brexit?

Also any issue that gets voted in shouldn't be discussed under your logic?

Yes, must stop talking about the biggest change in how our country is run for 40 years. Bored of it. What's Kim Kardashian West up to?

Who said it was the end of the world?

I'm happy to pledge, in the event of (not even asking for sunlit uplands and unicorns and extra money for the NHS) life carrying on exactly identically as it ever has, that I will be delighted to admit that I was wrong, wrong, wrong, and Brexit is thereby a total unalloyed success.

I've said all along that I hope to goodness that Leavers are right, and Remainers like me are the ones who are wrong, about the wonders of Brexit. Because it's also me, and my loved ones, and my friends, who have to experience whatever is coming, good or ill.

Also want to be wrong and will proudly admit so.

I really don't think that either the Government or the people really want this now. It is a disaster. And they know it.

Anyway, I will await a seamless transition from EU membership to Brexit within a week of the leaving day next March.

Saying anything else is not cricket it appears.

Yes agreed. Remainers don't want brexit to fail. We want into succeed as we've to live with it too. Doesn't mean we can't judge it to

The whole irony is, that the current Government are not leading at all.

I don't see any positives coming from them do I?

Well if anyone else sees a plan and a way forward I'd be delighted to hear it.

Two years on and still no plan. That freaks me out.

I am so disappointed that Brexiteers have achieved so little so far. Nine months to go... that is nothing. And nothing acheived so far either. Sheesh.

Two years on and still no plan.

Isn't the plan to urge Remainers to shut up, get over it, think positively and all pull together in an otherwise unspecified fashion to make it a success? (Oh, and to not buy an undefined excessive quantity of tinned ham).

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It makes me so cross that 'remainers' think that's all leave voters are uneducated, racist morons. I voted leave and still stand by that decision now. I'm not going to say that leaving will be a walk in the park but I don't think remaining would have been either. The problem is that the EU had morphed into something so far removed from how it originally started out that, imo, the model that it has become is not sustainable in the long term. People complain about immigration but I think what people really mean is the people that come to the UK to abuse the countrys benefit/healthough system. I for one have I problem with immigration, in fact i feel that the country needs immigration. As far as I'm concerned anyone should be able to travel where ever they want but they have to be able to work, pay into the country (taxes), and support themselves. Is that too much to ask? The problem is that the EU now contains 28 countries. When the UK joined in 1973 there were only 9. Out of those 28 countries only 9 put in more than they receive from the EU, the UK is one of them. When 19 countries are taking more than they are paying in then the other 9 are basically paying to support all those other countries. That model could work if it was equal (I know I'm being a bit simplistic here) but if 9 paid in more and 9 took our more then in theory that could even itself out. But when there are far more taking out then that's a lot of pressure (and money) on those that are basically holding it all up. Caps were trying to be imposed on benefits etc for immigrants but bizarrely it was voted against in the EU. Call me cynical but when 19 countries (or their people) would potentially lose out if we capped what immigrants could be entitled to then of course they are not going to vote in favour. I don't believe it will be a mass armageddon when we leave, I think there's just a lot of posturing at the moment to show no one is going to back down. The EU want to punish us, and make any other country fearful of following our lead, but we import an awful lot more than we export and we are one of the largest purchasers of goods in the world so are the EU really going to make it impossible for their countries to sell their products to us? Think it would be called cutting off your nose to spite your face!

Fucking arrogant David Cameron's fault. Bet he will make sure he is well out of the country come March. History is not going to view him kindly...

The biggest thing the referendem guaranteed was a polarisation of the UK.

Remainers v Brexiteers,

And no matter what happens that will be the legacy.

referendum..

Remainers v Brexiteers makes it sound like the start of the second civil war

This is not scare-mongering but a real threat. At the moment lorries and their loads exit and enter Dover at a rate of x per minute (cannot recall exact number but it's very efficient). If every lorry has to stop and go through customs checks, together with getting paperwork signed off, HM Customs and Excise anticipate it taking about 10 minutes to clear each load. That is 10 x, 20 x, 50 x times slower. So this can only result in imports not getting through and shortages. You cannot compare with 45 years ago, because trade and manufacturing has gone global since then. The whole of Brexit is complete suicide and the sooner people realise and rethink it, the better.

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Exactly

Plus - This country is the most overcrowded in Europe, and is rapidly being concreted over. 8 out of 10 households requiring housing are headed by a recent immigrant (published info). France and Germany have large amounts of unpopulated countryside, and yet the EU want us to take ever more migrants - all flowing in due to the Schengen system.

So this can only result in imports not getting through and shortages.

It'll result in fewer luxuries like Strawberries in December, woo.

The foods that sell will get through because the Supermarkets will prioritise them.

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There may be some shortages if there is no deal, but I do not think we will starve. Not all imports come via the Channel.

If there was a shortage of fuel (unlikely) and for a few weeks people were made to think about a journey being really necessary by car and sometimes walked, would that be a terrible thing (last time there was a possible shortage the emergency services and public transport got fuel OK)?

I expect there may be an agreement to continue as is for a period of time in the absence of an agreement in any case.

Worth remembering that if importas don’t go smoothly, exports wont go easily either.
Hence the fact eu companies are advised to AVOID products manufactured in the U.K.
And it won’t be just products going Europe but all of them as the whole system will be overwhelmed.
The consequence of that won’t be as quick and obvious i would imagine, but it certainly will make it much harder to trade and have dynamic economy.

And that the issue isn’t it? In a global economy, you can’t afford to end up isolated from the rest of the world.
And that’s what we will end up doing with Brexit I’d its not negotiated properly.

IIIustriousIyIIlogical seeing that we import more than 50% of our food, it’s not just strawberries in December that will be missing form the shelves.

The disaster will not accord with the ridiculous scenario outlined by the OP, who needs to grow up. And interesting that her first reaction is a totally selfish one - me first and bugger the rest.

No, the disaster will be gradual, and in fifty years or so the UK will end up like Detroit, a ghost town devoid of work, purpose and hope. I will be long dead by then, but my children and grandchildren will have it to cope with, thanks to unscrupulous and unprincipled shits like Farage, Gove and Johnson.

People do realise that we don't get petrol from Europe don't they?

Tambien the end of your last sentence was superfluous.

I always have 3 - 6 months worth of canned food just in case. What if you lose your job? Get sick and can't work? Not just Brexit but all sorts of things can happen. 3 times in my life I had to live off those cans once without even means of heating them. So no, you are not being unreasonable just sensible.