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To think 'household income' is extremely unfair when assessing student finance.

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fontofnoknowledge · 27/05/2018 17:39

Thought this when eldest DD first went to Uni however just accepted that this was how it is. Now Dss2 who lives with us has been at Uni since September - has bought a friend Home for the long weekend and talking to him has made me realise just how terrible this system is and how it makes some kids especially from hard Home lives, struggle even more. It is a system designed to make the poor even poorer.

Dss2's friend 'Tom', lived with his mum since he was 2. Dad not in his life. Never paid maintenance doesn't even know where he lives or if he's even alive. When he was 15 his mum met a new man. For whatever reason Tom doesn't like his mums bf. Nevertheless, he moved in when Tom was 16. He says it didn't really bother him as by then he was living his own life , good social life etc, so to be fair he just doesn't really 'know' this man. Tom gets to 18 and gets a place at Uni. Applies for student finance. The application wants 'household income'. Mums boyfriend refuses. Says his finances are none of anyone's business. Sf write to him three times requesting the information. He refuses saying he doesn't even know the boy properly. Has 3 kids of his own he is paying CM for and wants nothing to do with Toms student loan.
Even if it was provided, because he is a high rate tax payer Tom would get the minimum loan.
Because his mums bf didn't supply the info. Tom gets minimum loan and a letter telling his 'parents' (!) how much they must contribute to his finance.

Mother was a TA on tax credits before meeting partner. Now she just has her income. No tc. Boyfriend is tight with money and expects mum to contribute half bills leaving her very little for the month and nothing for son at Uni. Boyfriend will not pay Tom anything. He is working two jobs in order to pay rent. His Uni work is suffering and he is thinking of chucking it in as so stressful. He has had some help from student welfare, but it's still very tough.

AIBU to think that either children are Adults at 18 and should ALL be entitled to a full loan and not have it based on the earnings of your mothers boyfriend ??
As Adults their entitlements should be judged on their own finances, no one else's. Regardless of their resident parents household income ? The loan is repaid anyway so where is the loss ?

Conversely DDs best friend has a maximum loan as her mum lives on spousal maintenance. However non resident dad is very wealthy and sends her £500a month. She doesn't need a job as very well off.

OP posts:
Biker47 · 31/05/2018 14:22

Why did Mum's boyfriend even feature on the form?

Because he lives with the mum and it takes into account household income for some insane reason.

I agree, and have said before on here that I think it's stupid that a maintenance loan takes into the account the earnings of third parties when it's being given out, when it's only to the benefit of one single ADULT person, and repayed by that single person.

Should be the same across the board, and if needed, the repayment threshold should be lowered and repayments increased to compensate.

Bluelady · 31/05/2018 16:15

Perhaps I'm a deeply dishonest person but no way would a mention of Mum's partner have gone anywhere near the form. This is a mess of their own making.

happypoobum · 31/05/2018 16:43

BLUELADY

You would only get away with that if he wasn't on the electoral register....

The thing is, it's the son that is suffering, through absolutely no fault of his own. The system is crazy.

Tippexy · 31/05/2018 16:49

Ah, perhaps she isn't doing a degree then as bursaries have been removed from nursing and other allied health care undergraduate degrees.

Nursing course applications fall for second year after student bursary scrapped

Tippexy · 31/05/2018 16:50

Oh, you're in Scotland!

speakout · 31/05/2018 17:04

Yes Scotland.

It's a nursing degree.

You asked if I was in the UK Wink

No one pays University fees here and Nursing still has a bursary.

Tippexy · 31/05/2018 17:07

Oh well, hope you had fun!

speakout · 31/05/2018 17:08

Sorry.

Sidge · 31/05/2018 17:14

Perhaps I'm a deeply dishonest person but no way would a mention of Mum's partner have gone anywhere near the form. This is a mess of their own making.

If only it were that simple. HMRC and DWP link up now and match addresses for purposes of tax and child benefit, so I imagine SF link in too and can cross check addresses, tax payers etc.

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