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Whats you opinion of "stay at home wives"

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strawberryperogi · 24/05/2018 17:10

After reading another thread about SAHMs I am curious about what people would say about SAHWs, I know you will all say it should just be unemployed but if the person isn't looking for a job then are they really in that catagory?

Could you respect or be friends with a woman who didn't work and earn or at least look after her children?

Just curious!

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LipstickHandbagCoffee · 27/05/2018 11:45

Interesting?youve never asked or been asked what you do?after asking name it’s a frequent social question

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 27/05/2018 11:47

Now you’re just being facetious paisley,I’ve never have and never will tell any woman to zip it
Reread what I’m saying,it’s diametrically opposed to zip it

paisleyblue · 27/05/2018 12:05

Yet you're unwilling to take anyone else's opinion into consideration?

I get where you're coming from, I do. I've worked since leaving school, held down two jobs whilst at uni, I now support myself and my sons. But questioning why others choose not to work isn't helpful. It sounds judgemental.

You still haven't explained to me what's unfair about saying men and women should support each other. You're actively dismissive of logical arguments put forth and pick and choose the bits you want to critique without taking the full scope into perspective. Hence I feel like you want people to not be agreeable unless it's in agreement with you.

Sorry for feeling that way but that's how it comes across.

Pa1oma · 27/05/2018 12:09

No I've never been asked if I work or not. I have no idea what people think and I don't care.

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 27/05/2018 12:13

By all means I’ll take a POV into consideration, I just don’t have to agree with it
I’m not forcing you to agree with me,I’m not demanding that at all
Of course I am judgemental,as you.We are all judgemental.everyone
Term judgemental is of course subjective,if I were fully in agreement with you,you’d not consider that judgemental
However Im not compelled to be supportive to women because they are women

paisleyblue · 27/05/2018 12:15

@Pa1oma I kind of get where you're coming from. When I first meet people I don't automatically jump to the 'what do you do for a living?' Conversation, and generally speaking not do they unless it's relevant to the circumstance at the time.

Generally speaking, people don't often bring it up right away and I find irl that it often slips out by way of conversation rather than a formalised discussion if that makes sense? Even then I don't really care what someone does as long as a)they're not a benefit cheat (I know at least three of these) b) they're not a vile person (like a murderer or something) and c) they're not harming anyone else.

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 27/05/2018 12:24

It’s not a job interview so it’s not a formal ask,usually comes up socially
School,nursery type scenario, and it usually has some sort of preamble
You’re x child mum, I’m Y child mum,my name is...
how’s x getting on,
do they like the teacher,
do you live near by
What do you do

Starting school it’s even more apparent,as i declined meet up invite because I’m at work
I don’t know all the parents because I don’t see them at pick up

Magpiesarehuge · 27/05/2018 13:23

Lipstick - when you walk into a room - do other folk walk out, maybe even run?

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 27/05/2018 13:25

Yes,when I enter a roomdogs howl,statues weep,it becomes unseasonally cold. I’m actually called Lilith

yeahforsummer · 27/05/2018 14:28

I am a trailing spouse with school aged dc. Working in my field would be difficult but not impossible. My DH has no wish for me to work, holiday entitlement is shocking and a large chunk of my salary would be taken up with school holiday camps. He doesn't feel sponged off so much as looked after. When I am really irritated I threaten to go back to work.
I did worry about my dc not seeing me work but this week my dc were given flowers to give me at the end of the school play to say thank you for all of the work I had put in. My dh is going with me to a swearing in ceremony for one of my volunteer activities. There are plenty of non paid work options to role model for them.
I have worked with sex workers in the past and it is beyond stupid to compare my situation with theirs and pretty insulting for them and the difficulties they face.
I am friends with people not occupations.

Pa1oma · 27/05/2018 14:49

Exactly yeahforsummer. I too have worked with trafficked women and sex workers in the past and to compare any other woman's situation to this, SAHW or not, is one of the most ignorant and misogynistic comparisons I've ever heard in my life.

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 27/05/2018 15:08

I also work with trafficked women who are NRPF no recourse to public funds
The life of prosperous women who live with solvent men bears no relation to women who are trafficked,have no recourse to,funds,and have experienced traumatic events and complex social and MH issues. the former is usually consensual and the latter is definitely not

JelliedFeels · 27/05/2018 15:54

Yes,when I enter a roomdogs howl,statues weep,it becomes unseasonally cold. I’m actually called Lilith

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paisleyblue · 27/05/2018 16:36

Lol this thread brings out the best in people Grin

oblada · 27/05/2018 19:39

I still really do not get why anyone cares? Surely since there is unemployment it's better for some people not to work out of choice? How does it make anyone else's life any more difficult that some choose not to work? Is it just jealousy? I can be a right cow at judging others but this is so irrelevant to my life I just don't get it.

JelliedFeels · 27/05/2018 19:52

I still really do not get why anyone cares?

Cos the thread asked for our opinions?

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 27/05/2018 19:59

I still really do not get why anyone cares? Because as humans we are curious,inquisitive
And in general most folk can muster opinion on must things eg buses,news,weather
So yes people care,of course. I genuinely understand that more than apathetic who cares

Madbengalmum · 27/05/2018 20:07

If you are in a position where you don't have to work, I say good for you! It quite frankly is nobody elses business.

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 27/05/2018 20:19

As a general rule private individual choice is still other people business
Marriage,childbirth,education are deeply individual but still other people business
We do not live individual life in isolation from society,that’s why people care

Madbengalmum · 27/05/2018 20:28

What has someone elses lifestyle choice got to do with you unless you are funding it or affected by it?

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 27/05/2018 20:35

I refer you to my answer above,it covers your query
You’ll of course be aware it’s permissable to have opinion on things that one doesn’t directly engage in
I don’t live in the green belt,I’m not directly affected by green belt restrictions but id still scrap greenbelt
So can you see I don’t fund Greenberg,I’m not directly affected but I have a POV

MiggeldyHiggins · 28/05/2018 09:59

I think lipstick means "cos we are nosy fuckers who love to judge". HTH.

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 28/05/2018 12:52

cos we are nosy fuckers who love to judge Thats not what I’m saying Miggeldy
You are at it again,getting it wrong and associating me with your comments
I’m more than capable of surmising my own posts without you getting it wrong

MiggeldyHiggins · 28/05/2018 13:16

Pretty sure you are saying exactly that. Curious and inquisitive about peoples private arrangements is nosy. Debating how you think they are wrong is judgemental.

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