To think feminism has gone too far.

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Mr Men books, Little Miss books. Why are they saying these children's books are giving the wrong impression to children. All the books we read as youngsters, are being dissected as being sexist. Snow white looking after the dwarfs, Sleeping Beauty, needs a kiss from a Prince to wake her up. I love a man opening a door for me, to let me go first. My DH changes places with me so he's walking on the side of the pavement that is nearest the road. I know some of you are going to tear me to shreds, but I just had to say what I've been thinking for a long time.

Ok. Why don't searches work on my computer anymore? Why is world peace so hard to obtain? Why is there still a huge sex pay imbalance? Why are women still held primarily to blame (it usually is blame) for the existence of children, and do most of the care? Why are men still raping? Just some of the wonderful questions of our time.

@Nagsnovalballs, I play rugby too - hello!

Ordinarily wing forward, sometimes centre. For those of you who don't follow amateur women's rugby, at 70kg and 175cm, I'm kind of in the middle, in terms of build - big enough to smash (!), but also light enough to be quick.

Most men who play my position weight AT LEAST 85kg-90kg and stand around 190cm+, and they're considered pretty light.

Having somebody who weighs more than 15kg than you, run into you at about 30kph, is like being hit by a car. It will literally break you.

I love my sport. I love my teammates. I don't want to have to stop, but I have to go to work and earn money, and if playing my sport means potentially having the sh*t beaten out of me by biological men, who massively exceed my height and weight, of a weekend, then I'll have to stop.

Juells, crossed wires there. You were talking about barging in, being goady. I was talking about just joining in.

It's ridiculous .. normal women don't go this far ... only the argumentative types on mumsnet with nothing better to do .. not real life IMO

cheto but surely that depends on the women you know? We surround ourselves with people who have similar opinions to us. Most of my friends have very feminist views, men and women alike.

@Nagsnovalballs and @ThistleAmore

Another rugby player checking in! I’ve played for over 20 years - League and Union. I’m a qualified coach of both.

I’ve never played against a woman the size of a man. Nor would I ever want to. I guess agewise I’m probably at the end of my career but it scares me that a sport I love and have worked towards having females accepted could end up being a legitimate way to see a massive size difference and violence against women.

Just want to say OP my husband does that too and I like it. He is protective towards me but not possessive or smothering. It's just in a nice respectful way.

I'm still not entirely sure what "feminism has gone too far" actually means. Can anyone give some examples?

Hello, another (ex) rugby player here. Front row & flanker.
If I had to scrum down against a transwoman I would have retired injured a lot sooner than I did. Downright dangerous.

The RFU guidance is OK I think, but how many people will actually follow it? And how many women would feel confident enough to challenge a transwoman on an opposing team and ask to see their RFU Approval?

Very excited by the rugby and football presence here. Hi fellow sports people!

No, there was no choice. No prior warning to our coaches. It reduced the oppo’s tactics to get the ball to the TW, who either flanked at 7 or played 12. At low level women’s rugby, you sometimes see this game plan of relying on your best/strongest/quickest player, but it diminishes the quality of high level rugby, which for our team is tactically sophisticated and with multi stage game plans. It’s depressing to play against a team with a single and inelegant strategy at our level.

No it’s not gone too far.

It’s all part of the subtle subconscious social conditioning we all have.

Shocking, can't believe it! And no choice, no warning even to the coaches? And why would a man, sorry transwoman, even want to play against women? Where's the satisfaction in winning? Don't get it?

Some people just want to win, that's all that matters to them, leggere. You'll find thhem in all walks of life.

Nagsnovalballs, that's terrible. Is there any way your team can protest about it?
Or are you supposed to just accept that some women are bigger and stronger these days?

OohMavis but you haven't even been called a cunt I don't agree or see exactly what the OP is trying to say,except feminism has gone too far. Perhaps she's not quite the ticket, but I'm sure I can think of something more constructive to add to the discussion.