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To wish the EU would throw us a bone so we can cancel Brexit

999 replies

Crikeyisunderused · 08/05/2018 07:36

They don't want us to leave. We don't want to leave. So what could Macron'n'Merkel offer us so we can say "go on, we'll stay together for the sake of the kids".

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Smeddum · 09/05/2018 14:15

@user1486062886 ok, so swap hate immigrants for blaming immigrants then.

Allreadygone · 09/05/2018 14:15

I am not sure if it has changed but new developments had 'social infrastructure' included as part of the permit to develop. So the developers pile in and build the houses then 'oh dear we have run out of money' and the social infrastructure parts don't get built. Then, as the new residents have had to find their shopping/sports club/whatever elsewhere the developers come back and say 'look you don't need them' so can we build another fifty houses on the space previously allocated to the school/shop/gym.
Only 3 weeks to see a GP, try in Wales! 5 weeks just to see a nurse for a blood test, never mind the wait for the GP.

user1486062886 · 09/05/2018 14:15

GhostofFrankGrimes Where is this shortage of labour ? Is it for seasonal work, there was a job advertised recently, driving Min wage, had over 70 applications, I couldn’t believe it, do forget we still have million unemployed, Seasonal work is no good for people living here with mortgage or rent, stundents used to do it before loans

RoadToRivendell · 09/05/2018 14:15

As already stated there is a shortage of British labour in some areas so even increasing wages isn’t going to attract a non existant labour force.

How do you think that supply and demand works? If wages increase, workers will follow.

jugglingsatsumas · 09/05/2018 14:16

EU migrants have to be able to support themselves. You can't just move and do nothing. If they are moving and staying it is because they are filling jobs which aren't being filled by locals.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 09/05/2018 14:18

Right, so Brits with mortagages don’t want seasonal work fair enough. Say, who do you think might fill the gap?

Some jobs will always attract low pay and people are unlikely to move great distances for them. Farming and hospitality being 2 examples.

user1486062886 · 09/05/2018 14:19

Smeddum I don’t blame the immigrants, I blame the system FOM, I don’t blame anybody for bettering there own lives, I wish I could move to a country that paid me more, I’ve looked into it and apart from countries that you have to get a visa ( to old ) no were in the EU would work out better for us

TheresSomebodyAtTheDoor · 09/05/2018 14:23

I think it's quite patronising to suggest individuals unhappy with the level of their political empowerment should vote to suck it up because the establishment they want out of has built a swanky Opera house (which they're unlikely to use). Be grateful, suckers!!

Canoeeless2018 · 09/05/2018 14:24

Some people may not have GOT there VOTE like me or Many off the nurses and Dr's in the Hospital?Where i was and excuse me where is the 350,000 for the NHS??Gone A.W.O.L my SON could do a better JOB!Age 9.,Did you realise what you where signing up for?Will be not only NON EU citizens loosing there JOB's but others like the rest off my Family..I have yet to meet someone who is not working,paying TAX etc who is Signing up to loose there job...I did not sign up for Racial Hatred..Some people need to take a look round realise how lucky are to have homes etc ?There are People lovely people who don't want to stay in this country that have lived here all there lives ?Paid everything they owe to the GOVERMENT?Reasses your thoughts.Before you put a X in any box next time unless you want to be part off Paying the Bill?And what are we getting from this Bill?Hatred abuse insults and loss off lots off Profesional or (Undkilled workers )Put any off us into a Job such as theres we would not cope..And when someone fleas Abroad for commiting a CRIME what do we do then?

user1486062886 · 09/05/2018 14:24

GhostofFrankGrimes Could the unemployed not do it then go back to jsa without affecting the rest of their benefits,

jugglingsatsumas But they do, I know a few that move from job to job and in between claim jsa and not to be controversial claim while they are working, and before you moan at me, yes I know British people do it as well

Smeddum · 09/05/2018 14:27

@user1486062886

I don’t blame the immigrants, I blame the system

The system that you’ve just voted to have ultimate control with nobody to answer to?

Canoeeless2018 · 09/05/2018 14:28

There HAS been Not 1 Bit off correct thought put into this or propper Campaigne?People that did get there vote(Voted for something that will never happen the NHS.)None off my Family voted for there Grandson or Neephew to be SPAT at..If someone of his Ethnicity did it?They would lock them up and throw away the KEY...

user1486062886 · 09/05/2018 14:30

Smeddum To leave a system that tells us to accept FOM and a government that had to do as it was told to stay in the club, as we keep being told you can’t have the benefits if your not in the club

GhostofFrankGrimes · 09/05/2018 14:32

User, unemployment is low. I’m sorry to tell you that immigration is needed. Brexit will just make it more difficult and expensive to come here. The NHS will suffer. So much for the red bus.

NimbleKnitter · 09/05/2018 14:33

Can we split the U.K. into leavers and remainers?

I don't see why my tax should support the turkey leavers voting for Christmas

Smeddum · 09/05/2018 14:34

@user1486062886 so to prevent FOM you’re willing to compromise on the trade agreement, the funding the EU gives the UK, the advantages of being part of a union which means we’re politically, economically and socially stronger?

It’s cutting off your nose to spite your face.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 09/05/2018 14:34

Applications for nursing decreased 96% from Eu citizens after referendum Applications from British students also declined. The government scrapping bursaries was blamed. See what this fucked up thinking is doing to the country?

RoadToRivendell · 09/05/2018 14:34

Right, so Brits with mortagages don’t want seasonal work fair enough. Say, who do you think might fill the gap?

Some jobs will always attract low pay and people are unlikely to move great distances for them. Farming and hospitality being 2 examples.

So which is it? Do you despair over low wages, or do you seek to facilitate them?

Canoeeless2018 · 09/05/2018 14:34

If you want your TAX to go sky High NO GP's or Nurses.Teachers or Lawyers?Let alone Fruit Pickers working all day and night?Most off the People i know who are not of British Ethnicicity.Have Proffessional /or hard working Jobs i see so many UK citizen that would not be able to COPE or want to instead they are content with hurling Abuse at People...

user1486062886 · 09/05/2018 14:35

Canoeeless2018 I am sorry if bad things have happened to you and your family, not everyone is like that and there has always been anti foreigners even before the Brexit vote, I can’t speak for everyone, I have no problem with people that are here, I want to control immigration going forward

MightyMucks · 09/05/2018 14:37

ghost, unemployment is low but we’ve had a terrible period of wage stagnation which that could change because employers will have to offer more money to attract employees. Migration is needed, but targeted migration which addresses genuine need. Not a free for all which will prolong the stagnation by allowing employers to carry on paying low wages.

Smeddum · 09/05/2018 14:38

If every immigrant in the UK downed tools for one day, people would begin to realise the enormous contribution they make to the UK on a daily basis.

I can’t believe we’re in such a mess because people want to close the borders. No other reason, just wanting to close the borders. God almighty, we’d be fucked without immigrants!

user1486062886 · 09/05/2018 14:38

I keep saying , but just like the government nobody is listening, I just want controlled immigration not FOM,

GhostofFrankGrimes · 09/05/2018 14:38

It’s the cost of housing and living in general that is the problem. Not simply low wages.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 09/05/2018 14:40

You are not listening to the fact that the government can already control immigration and that immigration is vital to the economy