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AIBU to be extremely proud of Justine Roberts & Mumsnet right now?

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EmpressOfJurisfiction · 15/04/2018 00:41

Open access link. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mumsnet-founder-justine-roberts-transgender-activists-try-to-curb-free-speech-on-site-z3sr3nf6q?shareToken=ade388be59ac427155003eff83c5158c

“Transgender activists have contacted Mumsnet advertisers and said they will be organising a boycott of their products if they don’t remove their advertising from Mumsnet,” Roberts said.

“A significant minority of our users feel very strongly about women’s rights and very uneasy [about the proposals]. This is an issue that needs to be discussed and that’s why we’re prepared to take any potential advertising hit.”

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PaintedHorizons · 15/04/2018 10:01

I support free speech.

I will support advertisers who advertise here and boycott those who withdraw their ads due to pressure from a group who wants to silence free speech.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 15/04/2018 10:01

Wheeeeeee! Can we get another 90,000?

AskBasil · 15/04/2018 10:02

Here is some of the stuff I remember buying from MN purely because it was advertised here or because someone here recommended it or praised it:

Dyson vacuum
Sofology sofa
GHD straighteners (which I trod on within 3 months, fuck you style and beauty Grin)
John Lewis - fridge, dishwasher, oven, bra, clothes, laptop, camcorder
Charlotte Tilbury foundation
Aldi everything
Boden skirt

That's just off the top of my head without going through everything in the house to try and remember other stuff.

And I haven't even got very much money. Fuck knows what the rich birds have bought. Grin

YetAnotherSpartacus · 15/04/2018 10:02

oops wrong thread.

Ohforfoxsakereturns · 15/04/2018 10:03

Thank you MN

ErrolTheDragon · 15/04/2018 10:03

Excellent!

Comments starting to appear on the piece - a couple daft, but one linking the petition and another very clear one.

Popchyk · 15/04/2018 10:03

I am glad Justine has said this.

This is now out in the open (we all knew it was happening anyway).

And thank God for The Times.

It's been quite a positive week. Criminal charges against Posie dropped, thug convicted and now Justine being open about what is happening.

Beyond11cisRetinol · 15/04/2018 10:04

I'm not going to make an equivalent list basil - it will make me look very suggestible Grin

PaintedHorizons · 15/04/2018 10:04

Just signed 10,010!

ChoosandChipsandSealingWax · 15/04/2018 10:04

Thank you thank you thank you Justine!!! Flowers Brava - and brave.

Another of the silent "minority" here - I haven't posted for a couple of years since that password fiasco but lurk most days, often on feminism, and now actively delurking again for this.

I agree with a lot of PPs, in particular:

I will boycott any advertiser that pulls out of MN due to trans extremist pressure. Brands that are complicit in bullying women into silence will not get my custom

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I'm one of the silent (probably) significant majority who also feel strongly about women's rights but don't post much on the feminism/ transgender debates
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I also think it is more than a minority, I often read trans threads and agree with concerns but have never commented.

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I fully respect transgender people and appreciate I have a lot more to learn about their issues, struggles and preferences. I show every courtesy to those who identify as a different gender to the one they were born into and think there is a lot of hysteria around this issue which has been overblown.

But there are many unanswered questions about how their right to self-expression can be resolved in the face of women's rights to male-free spaces (refuges, prisons, intimate medical examinations, sporting contests, etc.), and we have to be free to debate these issues respectfully.
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I didn't realise the feminist chat threads weren't appearing in active.....so that's feminism and special needs not in my active threads. I'd quite like that to change.
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I am immensely grateful to the posters on the Feminism Chat pages for the time, energy and thoughtfulness that they put into explaining calmly, rationally and patiently the issues with the GRA that will have a massively detrimental effect on the rights of women and girls. Mumsnet has opened my eyes to this....

I've been impressed with the respectful debate on Mumsnet. I, along with the vast majority of posters, just want to protect my and my daughters hard fought rights - I'm not a bigot, I'm not unkind, I'm not violent or exclusionary, I just want a respectful debate about the issues.

BoreOfWhabylon · 15/04/2018 10:05

@JustineMumsnet - More balls than Millwall!

And a reminder of the petition which has this morning passed the 10,000 signatures benchmark.

TheShaniaTwainExperience · 15/04/2018 10:06

Thank you Justine and everyone at MNHQ ❤️

PaintedHorizons · 15/04/2018 10:09

Me too AskBasil
I have bought bucketloads of Zoflora - which I'd never heard of before.
Lakeland heated airer plus cover
Most of my kitchen!!

birdsdestiny · 15/04/2018 10:09

I have for a long time been astounded that MN has continued to support us on our right to discuss this. The pressure they must be under must be enormous. Thankyou so much. I also add my voice to those who are saying ' free the feminism board'.

PaintedHorizons · 15/04/2018 10:11

ChooseChipsandSealingWax - I agree with everything you have said.

MagneticMan · 15/04/2018 10:12

Thank you Justine. MN is probably one of the few organisations that hasn't bowed to the pressure of these trans activists.

I'll also boycott any company withdrawing their ads due to pressure from the TA lobby.

drspouse · 15/04/2018 10:14

Massively proud!
I think we should all buy nappies and period boxes. Though I'm just getting an ad for Wembley which is realistically too far away for me to go to.

drspouse · 15/04/2018 10:15

Over 50s travel cover - that's more my speed!

CuppaTeaAndAJammieDodger · 15/04/2018 10:15

This is an issue that affects women and parents - exactly the demographics that make up the majority of the population of MN. I am so grateful and proud that MN has taken the stance that they have and hope that advertisers read this thread and realise that their ad views on the site and resulting sales will most likely increase rather than decrease as:

  • More women visit the site when they realise they can discuss the issue freely
  • Many of us now turn off our ad blockers
  • We actively support those companies that continue to advertise here

Bravo Justine, bravo 💐

Queenofthedrivensnow · 15/04/2018 10:15

Yeeeeeees!!!!!!!!

Queenofthedrivensnow · 15/04/2018 10:15

Yeeeeeees!!!!!!!!

ShowOfHands · 15/04/2018 10:16

Thank you Justine.

I genuinely hope you don't experience too much personal criticism for this statement.

This is for Mumsnet and for women.

WellThisIsShit · 15/04/2018 10:20

Thank you Justine Flowers Smile

jedenfalls · 15/04/2018 10:21

I will boycott any advertiser that pulls out of MN due to trans extremist pressure. Brands that are complicit in bullying women into silence will not get my custom

This in spades.

Thank you Justine

Soubriquet · 15/04/2018 10:22

Thank you Justine and mumsnet

Nice to know there are still people who take women's rights seriously