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To find floral tributes being left for Harry Vincent offensive

999 replies

frankchickens · 10/04/2018 10:47

This is an attempt to intimidate the innocent family. Flowers should be removed - isn’t it littering?

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fruityb · 10/04/2018 10:49

A friend of mine lives on that street. He has no idea about who has removed the flowers but does feel worried about the media reporting of it and the repercussions that could have.

I agree - I see it as intimidation and threatening. If he hadn’t been burgling someone’s house he wouldn’t have been in that position. He didn’t deserve to die obviously but only they know what happened in there.

KC225 · 10/04/2018 10:49

Not sure about littering but I do agree with you.

stitchglitched · 10/04/2018 10:49

They've all been ripped down now.

RoseAndRose · 10/04/2018 10:51

The flowers have been removed. I think that's the right decision in these individual circumstances.

The bereaved will want to mourn, and I hope they find a different place as their focal point.

WyclefJohn · 10/04/2018 10:55

I don't think anyone out there would think you are being unreasonable. In fact, the only unreasonable thing in this thread is posing an AIBU where you know you're not being unreasonable.

Yoksha · 10/04/2018 11:04

This is just too awful. I can't stop thinking about the psychological effect on the 78yr old having to take a life as a consequence of self-defense. Never mind having to suffer the fall-out from the mourning family. The media shouldn't fan this now. Community leaders and police should move to allow the 78yr old and his wife to live out the remainder of their lives as they need to.

Aeroflotgirl · 10/04/2018 11:17

Very, obviously they are from his friends and family. But they have no reason to be there. They are all nasty, so I would not expect anything less.

MorningsEleven · 10/04/2018 11:30

It's unfathomable - a bit like "national treasure" Barbara Windsor banging on about how the Kray twins loved their mother.

Springiscoming123 · 10/04/2018 11:30

im glad that somebody had the guts to rip them down,fine put somewhere else if they really have to but not there,but i believe the people putting them there knew this would cause problems

i cant understand how they have said he had a heart of gold etc,he was a common thief and conman

my sympathy lies with the elderly couple that have had their lives turned upside down

Bedtimesnacks · 10/04/2018 11:34

Whole family are bad news and and their associates. They would be the first ones up in arms if someone stole from their or their loved ones. And my opinion isn't from news headlines but knowing of these people

Personwithhorse · 10/04/2018 11:38

The authorities should be taking all this rubbish down as soon as it appears. Neighbours risk being attacked by these vile people if they take action.

The poor victim of this crime - the homeowner may have to sell his house and move to a new area just because some scum decided to try to rob him.

SaucyJane · 10/04/2018 11:46

Nice threats here:

www.google.co.uk/amp/metro.co.uk/2018/04/10/pensioner-killed-burglar-hiding-travellers-threaten-revenge-7453766/amp/

Clearly they think that they are above the law.

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Personwithhorse · 10/04/2018 11:59

Spring you are quite correct the police need to tool up armed if necessary and the courts need to support them. Some instances ignored by police - stealing people’s pets, cruel treatment of horses - tethering horses by the roads, neglect etc.

I have been told by people whose cars have been stolen that the police won’t go and recover them - this needs to stop.

RepealMay25th · 10/04/2018 12:02

I don't think its intimidating or threatening. He died, suddenly and violently. His mother doesn't not grieve because he was a burglar, his family doesn't stop caring because he wasn't a very good person.

Nobody complains when flowers are left at crash sites and they could be angels or devils, who knows?

IIIustriouslyIllogical · 10/04/2018 12:03

It's outrageous & an attempt at intimidation.

I'm not a fan of these "tributes" anyway (put them in my favourite place, not where I died in misery/pain) but these are just designed to be offensive to everyone on that street....

Trumpdump · 10/04/2018 12:05

I'm really hoping that the DM did it themselves to stir up trouble... clutching at straws, I know. I just cannot believe that the criminal's family could be so goady. Sad

RoseWhiteTips · 10/04/2018 12:06

Dislike floral tributes anyway in that on the street, against a wall way. But for him - yes totally unacceptable.

IIIustriouslyIllogical · 10/04/2018 12:07

I don't think its intimidating or threatening.

Really? All these folk sticking them up opposite the real victims house, staring at it - they might as well spray paint his fecking fence.

Nobody complains when flowers are left at crash sites

I do - they're shit, tacky & very often involve people putting themselves in danger to put the bloody horrible things on the blind bend, cliff edge etc...

Maybe there should be a national "It was bound to happen" arboretum where relatives of speeders, boy racers, burglars, base jumpers can go & put their Esso Posies in safety without littering....

AuntMabel · 10/04/2018 12:11

The flowers have been taken down. Agree, it was a provocative act. But these people are of that ilk. They won't learn a thing from this, as is evidenced by trying to create some sort of shrine outside a home Vincent was in the process of robbing.

The media reports aren't helping, they should stop giving them a platform for this.

LittleMyLikesSnuffkin · 10/04/2018 12:14

I feel sorry for everyone living on that street right now especially the elderly victims who were living in that house and now can’t go back because it is isn’t safe for them. The atmosphere must be awful- bubbling resentment, threats and intimidation, the fucking awful shrine to the dead criminal.... I don’t blame whoever tore down the flowers and shit but it won’t end there.

EB123 · 10/04/2018 12:14

I think it is inappropriate in this case. Of course his family will grieve but grieving doesn't have to include this tribute,

muttmad · 10/04/2018 12:18

Several years ago, a friends dog was stollen and after searching was spotted caged outside a caravan on a travellers encampment. The police were informed but the owner was told that the police were not authorised to go into the camp to retrieve the dog, and were told there was nothing they could do and they should forget about the dog!
The dog was retrieved eventually, not sure how but the police had nothing to do with its return!

user3546546 · 10/04/2018 12:19

It's weird that the police removed the flowers left at the time at the "shrine" for Lee Rigby (on the wall near where he was murdered) but apparently could not remove the flowers left for this burglar. The police seem to have become very politicised and inconsistent.

RepealMay25th · 10/04/2018 12:19

All these folk sticking them up opposite the real victims house

The real victim? Only one of them are dead.

It's normal to put flowers out when someone dies.

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