To find floral tributes being left for Harry Vincent offensive

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This is an attempt to intimidate the innocent family. Flowers should be removed - isn’t it littering?

Did the carnations walk themselves there? Or do you not think his friends and family members arriving at his home could be seen as intimidating?

Walking up, putting down flowers, walking away again. No, I can't see the intimidation there at all.

Repeal You are either being disingenuous or are a bit thick then.

Walking up, putting down flowers, walking away again. No, I can't see the intimidation there at all.

Then you're clearly hard of thinking.

It was a deliberate act of intimidation, a handful of women strategically placing lots of bright tacky flowers and balloons along the fence. It wasn’t a bunch of individual people with one bunch of flowers each showing respect for the dead like regular flower tributes. This was purposely done with one thing in mind.

They didn't just put down flowers. They came with bags of ribbons, cards, balloons and flowers and tied them all to the fence. It would have taken a considerable amount of time. Do you think that an elderly couple who have been driven out of their home, under threat of reprisal, might feel intimidated by the fact that his relatives have no hesitation whatsoever to turn up at his home?

They didn't just put down flowers. They came with bags of ribbons, cards, balloons and flowers and tied them all to the fence. It would have taken a considerable amount of time

Well perhaps anyone on this thread should have said so. People give opinions based on the info given.

I’d feel quite intimidated if I lived on this street! The fact they see nothing inappropriate about what they’re doing speaks volumes as to what type of people they are.

Yes I’m sure he was loved and cherished by his family but I can’t be the only one wondering who he nicked that heart of gold of his from

I have been told by people whose cars have been stolen that the police won’t go and recover them - this needs to stop.

This happened to my FIL. His land river was stolen and seen by someone at a travellers site, only 7 miles away. The police would not do a thing!
75 years old FIL was all for going and getting his car back himself but the police told him he’d be very foolish to do that.

*Landrover

I can’t be the only one wondering who he nicked that heart of gold of his from

It IS intimidating, it is a way of saying:"we all know where you live, and you made us upset"

If it was my elderly neighbours, I'd bloody well remove the flowers

Everybody has the right to grieve, but not at the expense of these poor burgled people's peace of mind

Their willingness to attend this couple's house should be considered intimidating regardless of how long they stood there for.

I don't think flowers should be left outside the house that was burgled. It's inappropriate.

The BBC reports that the letters from his children have been left up. I can understand that one - I could take down all the rest quite easily but I don't think I could bring myself to take down the messages from his children. It's them I feel sorry for, not him.

repeal you are a GF.

Let the family grieve elsewhere. This is pure intimidation.

Leaving flowers outside his own home would have been fine, but leaving them outside the house he broke into was tasteless.

Exactly, they’re not welcome there, so why go back other than to prove a point? Also from what I read Vincent was stabbed inside the house but did not die there he managed to get away and collapsed and died further down the road. Or have I misunderstood because there was someone with him wasn’t there?

Police won't get involved with travelling communities. I stopped at a hotel a few years back and they unwittingly had a traveller wedding - huge fights broke out and the police were called. The police advised other non-wedding hotel guests to leave and then suggested just leaving the wedding party to it. They literally wouldn't step foot in the room. Don't blame them to be honest. The amount of damage caused was insane, there was blood all over the floors and walls, mirrors were smashed, doors off their hinges, lights off the ceiling. Hotel had to cover the costs of the damage and from what I can make out the people who'd caused the damage just got away with it.

It IS intimidating, it is a way of saying:"we all know where you live, and you made us upset"

Exactly.

Very pleased someone had the balls to take that shrine down.

I have no problem with Vincent’s friends and family mourning him. They can have a shrine. But putting that shrine outside the house that he had broken into armed with a screwdriver to intimidate and elderly couple is rubbing their noses in it. And threats have been made. Another traveller is said to have said that the family and friends will seek revenge with whatever they have.

My sympathies lie purely and simply with the elderly couple and their neighbours.

Yes I would have left the letters from his children.
This is the wrong place for the 'shrine' anyway, as he didn't die there. Of course it's intended to be intimidating. It's the message that 'we don't care what strangers think' that is being got across. Strangers meaning society outside of their own group. He may well have had a heart of gold to his friends and family. What a pity he didn't extend that to other people though, as people who are truly kind and caring do.

Janeyjones, the same reason the police turned a blind eye to Asian grooming gangs up north: they don’t want to act or appear intolerant. It’s a mix of being acutely paranoid about PC and fear of being attacked, which has happened