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Lying about being stabbed?

179 replies

DextroDependant · 06/04/2018 23:24

I had a holiday booked with my partner to leave next week but we broke up.

I think he thought I would calm down and change my mind but things came to a head this afternoon when I confirmed I wouldn't be going away with him.

He was being a nuisance outside my house so I had to call the police, he left when he realised I was calling them.

A few hours later he text me that he had been chased by a lad with a knife but was going back to that area to get to his mum's.

45mins after that his mum text me that he had been stabbed and beaten with a bar.

His sister was texting me updates.

Less than 2 hours later he had apparently been to the hospital, been seen and been discharged. Told to come back tomorrow for head x rays and told that the stab wound may have damaged his liver.

This info is coming via his mum and sister.

AIBU to think that it is a load of bollocks and no way would he have been seen and dealt with that fast. Surely he would have been kept in for observation at least?

AIBU unreasonable to limit my response to - well at least he can get a crime reference and claim for the holiday on the insurance as he won't be able to travel after being stabbed.

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Jenna43 · 07/04/2018 14:21

Christ almighty, he's obviously thinking he can work it all out with you on holiday - Definitely keep burn his passport.

TheFirstMrsDV · 07/04/2018 14:22

He was stabbed on a Friday night, triaged, seen, treated and discharged in a couple of hours?

I don't care how much priority he was given, that couldn't happen.
Why would he be prioritised for a wound so small it would be 'scabbed over' in a few days and how the hell did they fit in all investigations they would need to do to discover liver damage?

I worked in A&E for years and can't recall a stabbing victim being sorted out that quickly.

DextroDependant · 07/04/2018 14:29

Thanks for the Amazon link, I gave ordered the window thing.
We usually have the kitchen window open all the time so the cat can go out, she will poo or wee on the kitchen side otherwise.

Never been worried about people coming in as I have 2 massive dogs but obviously they know him so didn't bother him. Traitors. One of the dogs is a pup for his own dogs which he allowed to 'accidentally ' get pregnant.

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ratspeaker · 07/04/2018 14:36

Yup, call the police.
He has no right at all o climb in through your windows. That is not normal behaviour.

Post his passport back signed for, of course you wll have to wait til the main post office opens onMonday or maybe Tuesday if you are like here where its a local holiday.

I call bullshit on the stabbing, I know someone who ended up in intensive care with a similar stab wound not let out and told it would scab over.
He'd surely need a fit to fly letter after such a trauma. Or claim on his travel insurance ...if we believed the story.

Weezol · 07/04/2018 14:42

Have you contacted the police yet?

ReanimatedSGB · 07/04/2018 14:42

I don't know the ages of your DC but you should probably talk to them about Dickface and the fact that he is not to be trusted and not welcome in your lives. Say something along the lines of you thought he was a nice man, but he was only pretending to be nice; that he tells lies and behaves badly, and that you are not going to have anything more to do with him and they should not speak to him if they see him in the street.
Also, don't eat that cake but maybe think about turning it over to the police? If Dickface had laced it with something and it showed up in tests then that would be him straight into prison.

Lucked · 07/04/2018 14:55

He has told you he is not going so don’t mention the passport.

I would post it from the airport

Dodie66 · 07/04/2018 14:58

I’m glad you have ordered the window thing. You need to feel safe in your own home. I hope you can get away without him

RandomMess · 07/04/2018 15:06

Post the passport back 2nd class signed for, it won't get back to him in time and you can prove you no longer have it as it's in the post Wink

GoldfishCrackers · 07/04/2018 15:11

Please contact the police. If anyone else climbed in your bedroom window you wouldn't hesitate. Don't be embarrassed about taking him back. It would be entirely consistent with being in an abusive relationship: the average number of times it takes to leave is 7. So you're above averageSmile

And he's already agreed not to go on the holiday so don't try too hard to get his passport back to him. I like pp's suggestion of posting it back to him very slowly and signed for.

MadMags · 07/04/2018 15:23

I think you should post the passport to his mother’s on Monday evening as previously suggested.

TheNoodlesIncident · 07/04/2018 15:54

Mightn't he simply tell the Passport Office his passport is lost and he needs to fast track a new one as a matter of urgency? Because of this I would definitely at least try to change hotel, definitely explain it all to police and definitely buy new locks for the house.

His breaking and entering your house when he knew he wasn't welcome has escalated the situation into dangerous territory (if it wasn't already with his bizarre lies)...

I wouldn't trust him an inch and he's already shown he is prepared to go extra lengths to get what he wants, so I wouldn't relax your guard for a second OP

GreenTulips · 07/04/2018 16:05

Mightn't he simply tell the Passport Office his passport is lost and he needs to fast track a new one as a matter of urgency?

Nope not an option Sad

Lying about being stabbed?
ohfourfoxache · 07/04/2018 16:16

Can you change the locks just in case he has a spare?

And could someone stay with you until you go away?

I agree with others, this guy has the potential to be bloody dangerous

GabsAlot · 07/04/2018 18:44

why would tghe police hold on to or destroy his passport they have no rights to do that unless hes charged and bailed

post it back monday wont get it till wed too late by then

WellThisIsShit · 07/04/2018 19:55

Look, you’re not thinking straight.

You are NOT protecting yourself from this man at all. Like so many people in abusive relationships, you are blind to the risk and although you are shocked at the individual behaviours, but it’s not leading you to the natural, basic understanding of what these mean.

eg. Oh my God, he crept through my window! = shock and momentary fear at the time.... lots of talk about alerting the authorities. But tailing off to, making your own private silent attempts at making it a bit harder for him to do it again (eg the lock) and becoming too ashamed and downplaying it so much that it becomes ‘ah well I ‘cant’ (wont) tell anyone, and it doesn’t really mean anything’, beyond simply the actual act of climbing into your window.

A non-abused person would understand the act of breaking into your home and forcing himself upon you, like it’s ‘normal’ to have to force his way in to gain access to you and your children... well, they’d be terrified.

Particularly as this man had also quite possibly stabbed himself in order to get your attention... you’re upset at the lies, but you should be fucking terrified that he has no brakes.

Where is the knife he used? Is he carrying it around? If he has no brakes that stop him from breaking & entering into your home, and refusing to leave until you threaten to call the police... how long before he thinks about a more direct way of controlling you via using that same weapon on you (and yes, that knife is a weapon, sorry if that sounds extreme).

And You are repeating this same behaviour all over again. Like the holiday situation, which you’ve not dealt with in the way you needed to, to protect yourself. I’m not telling you off, but I am trying to get you to see that your behaviour isn’t normal!!! It isn’t anything to be ashamed of either, so please please don’t be, it’s thebehaviojr of someone stuck deep in an abusive relationship.

But you cannot change it if you are too busy feeling ashamed and guilty and leaving yourself unprotected because that would mean admitting you’re in too deep to cope with.

With the holiday, you first had the correct reaction, shock and upset, taking action, all really really good stuff!

Then the quick minimization, acting like there’s not really any threat and taking no real steps to protect yourself from harm...

And now, you are suggesting doing dodgy and illegal acts yourself to attempt to protect yourself in a silent, hiding, covering everything up kind of way... going to extraordinary lengths to try and protect yourself and your children when all you had to do was really easy actions a couple of weeks ago,

But now, you’re suggesting you steal his passport, or with hold it deliberately to stop a man from going on a holiday he’s paid for and has absolutely no legal reason not to go on... so you’ll be the one in the wrong. Yet he’s the one abusing you!

And no to the really odd idea some posters have that the police will happily collude I’m with holding an individuals official identity documents to stop him leaving the country with no legal cause or evidence for this action.

Far better to post it slightly to late, or second class etc. but except another break in and a ranting raging man when he can’t find it.

I’m willing to bet that without this thread, and without the worry of the holiday, there’s not a chance in hell you end up telling the police about any of this.

But, this man sounds very risky and dangerous to you. He’s already committing acts that are threatening and illegal. You need to start protecting yourself. You need to stop helping your abuser abuse you. Because that’s what you are doing. I know you’re not doing it on purpose. But you need to recognise that as a victim of abuse, you’re so enmeshed with his behaviour you are not judging this situation well. I’m sorry, but you aren’t and that’s ok... but you need help off people who can see through all his tricks and keep you and your children safe.

I’m really hoping that because you’re posting on this thread, and because there is a genuine and immediate threat to you with the prospect of him following you on holiday, you might find the strength to go to the police again this time. Or Women’s Aid? Or both?

Please get help. No shame in needing help. But you can’t do it on your own...

MissMoneyPlant · 07/04/2018 20:06

Even if he gets his passport back late, he could just book a new flight and show up at the hotel later.

Please listen to WellThisIsShit

LoveProsecco · 07/04/2018 21:59

OP you gave great advice here re staying safe Thanks

Jamiefraserskilt · 07/04/2018 22:28

Whether there are lies involved or not, you are no longer together. For good reason. How convenient that it all happens in time for him to miss his flight. Perhaps you can go alone or with a friend......did I just say that out loud...?

mumontherunnn · 07/04/2018 22:56

Call the police! He is obviously mentally unstable. Also I would not be surprised if he has multiple phones and is pretending to be his mum and his sister - RUN!

Weezol · 07/04/2018 23:03

WellThisIsShit is right in everything they say. Please protect yourself and your childrenfrom this man.

This and your previous thread are full of help, advice and support. People here posting have lived this stuff. Two women are killed every week by their current or ex partner. Is any of this getting through to you?

DextroDependant · 07/04/2018 23:20

I am taking all advice on board. Thanks to everyone that is posting. I did ring 101 back, they took a full statement.

I didn't mention the passport.

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ReanimatedSGB · 08/04/2018 00:48

WRT holiday (don't actually answer on the thread) are you going to a hotel with holiday reps etc so if Dickface shows up, you can ask for help if he makes a nuisance of himself? You don't want the fucker crawling in through the window of your hotel room, after all.

hawleybits · 08/04/2018 10:08

As someone who speaks from experience of ridding myself of a very difficult exP (not quite on this level though) and without wishing to judge. I think the question you need to be asking yourself (as I did) is, how can this man possibly have a positive influence on the lives of your young children?
Presumably he has always been this way; I don't imagine he started out as a thoroughly decent bloke? He won't improve and he sounds very immature and frankly dangerous.
Get rid and don't go back.

tishhope · 08/04/2018 10:24

Listen to wellthisisshit .This is not the last of it, with him.

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