AIBU to think some people should just grow up

[ithinksheisawuss]

Details changed and I’ve name changed to stop it being identifiable.

AIBU to think some people just need to grow up and get on with it at work?

I work in a busy fast paced environment. It’s a big office with two distinct areas. On one side are the sales people this is high stress and loud, on the other side is the support staff area which is much gentler. The support staff are mainly older women, the sales staff are a mixed bunch.

The sales side is very robust, lots of swearing and mickey taking. Some days people let off steam by shouting we all just laugh and get on with it, no one takes offence. When someone shouts we laugh at them then they laugh and the tension breaks. We need this release sometimes.

Anyway, one of the support ladies lady S was doing a job at the sales end of the office colleague A put the phone down and started to shout. Lady S asked a question of colleague A and colleague A shouted. She didn’t shout at lady S - she was just shouty iyswim.

Lady S has put in a formal complaint saying she has been bullied and colleague A was unprofessional. Colleague A often behaves like this it’s her passion that makes her good at her job.

If all the sales staff behaved in the quiet demure way the support staff do no sales would get made! But the whole support area is up in arms about poor lady S.

TBH I think lady S is a bit of a wuss but I am wondering if I am too harsh. Colleague A is really valuable to the business, lady S is easily replaceable.

Fine OP. I don't call you names but you are still a bully though. Does that help?

If anyone said “you are a cunt” op, that’s against talk guidelines. Suggest you report to MN who will remove those posts. I think I must have missed them.

Yes ginger and that is why I said I would think about having a word with the team about keeping it down when the support staff are in the area. No one said “you are a cunt” to her though.

And yes the tone of your original post was very 'goady'

AIBU to think some people just need to grow up and get on with it at work?

Referring to your colleague as 'lady S' and calling her a wuss smacks of contempt. It is clear, at least from this post and your tone, that you look down on her. That's why you have been roasted here. Perhaps take that on board. You are no better than her, regardless of the fact that she doesn't enjoy all the hilarious bantz and you are one of the 'cool gang'.

Op you and your team just sound like a bunch of twats to be honest

The one calling me a cunt has been deleted, I didn’t report it.

Here’s another God you all sound like a bunch of twats

OP it's 'lose', not 'loose'.

Sorry if that's already been pointed out, bugbear of mine.

Yes ginger I have taken it on board which is what I just said that we need to tone it down around others. I started saying that pages ago.

I like the bantz, you think that’s stupid and you wouldn’t want to work on the team, that’s fine but would you read what I post.

@ithinksheisawuss stop. You got your answer. And to be fair you don't sound very pleasant to work with. You asked a question. You got a fairly unanimous answer. So deal with it. No one likes mean girls (or blokes). It's not cool, it's not fun and it makes for a toxic work environment.

Op you and your team just sound like a bunch of twats to be honest

who said that?

No one answering the point about the bully becoming the bullied. You don’t like me so I deserve the kicking.

Although, someone else must have reported the “you are a cunt” post. Thanks to whoever did that.

Nope. Never said it was stupid. I work in a very bantery environment and a sense of humour is vital but I'm also mature enough to know that doesn't suit everyone so I tone it down according to my company.

Not sure where I said i thought it was stupid. Perhaps you also need to read what was written?

Justdontknow4321

Op you and your team just sound like a bunch of twats to be honest

I’m actually with you OP. I’ve worked lots of places with sales teams like this (but not been in them), because sales is pretty monotinous and you need to keep the energy up. I do think it often comes across as annoying and immature but in this situation I would have either rolled my eyes or stood my ground, you really don’t have to run off to HR for everything little thing. An adult should be capable of standing up for themselves, if they can’t handle a minor thing like this then at some point life will give them a shock

Bingisatwat

God you all sound like a bunch of twats

And stop with the 'poor me' nonsense. You're on AIBU. You wrote an ill thought out post and have been rightly pulled up on it. I've been roasted on here for a lot less. Perhaps research your audience?

Justdontknow4321
Op you and your team just sound like a bunch of twats to be honest

This posted on an anonymous AIBU forum is very different from any kind of offensive behaviour in a workplace.

And being pedantic, it's not the Sales people that bring the money in to to pay the bonuses, it's the Accounts Receivable people who actually ensure that all those nice pound notes find their way from the customers' bank accounts to the company's. Get rid of them and see how long the company lasts.

An adult should be capable of standing up for themselves, if they can’t handle a minor thing like this then at some point life will give them a shock - ah so it was the fault of the woman being shouted at? Oh thank god you came on the thread hotcross and made that clear to us all.

Op you and your team just sound like a bunch of twats to be honest - oh I see.

I don't have a problem with banter and jokes in an office, it's very much needed sometimes, but not if it's all the time, as we are supposed to, you know, do some work?? But shouting non stop would be an absolute no no, as it would make it very hard to do my job, that may have been your colleague's issue? When you're doing jobs like filing, audio typing and photocopying, or if you're doing the accounts, or answering the telephone, you do need to be able to concentrate on what you're doing, or mistakes will be made.

Basically, there's a time and place for shouting and it's not the office.

"Sound like" isn't the same as "are".

Why have you name changed OP?

Didn't dare post this goady fuckery under your nice normal name? Or had to change after getting banned?

Difference is that MN isn't a professional working environment. People will use language here that they wouldn't in their workplace. Because, you know, this isn't work.

If someone says something against talk guidelines report it and it's taken down. If you don't like the other things people are saying then leave the thread or don't post in AIBU in the first place.

Thanks hotcrossbun the thread has brought home to me how much of a closed off bubble we are and that other people aren’t able to stand their ground. I could and you could but it makes other people cry so we have to shut up a bit near them.

My point ginger was that if bullying is bad is it only bad face to face with nice people. I am happy to have my behaviour challenged and have agreed it needs to change near admin. But when I looked at another thread it made me think that because you think I am a bully it is ok to bully me. Also I said stupid not as a quote but to sum up the many, many, many comments people had posted.

Someone reported the “you are a cunt”comment MN removed it but no one pointed out it was a bullying comment.

StaplesCorner

Op you and your team just sound like a bunch of twats to be honest - oh I see

Does that mean you agree