AIBU to think some people should just grow up

[ithinksheisawuss]

Details changed and I’ve name changed to stop it being identifiable.

AIBU to think some people just need to grow up and get on with it at work?

I work in a busy fast paced environment. It’s a big office with two distinct areas. On one side are the sales people this is high stress and loud, on the other side is the support staff area which is much gentler. The support staff are mainly older women, the sales staff are a mixed bunch.

The sales side is very robust, lots of swearing and mickey taking. Some days people let off steam by shouting we all just laugh and get on with it, no one takes offence. When someone shouts we laugh at them then they laugh and the tension breaks. We need this release sometimes.

Anyway, one of the support ladies lady S was doing a job at the sales end of the office colleague A put the phone down and started to shout. Lady S asked a question of colleague A and colleague A shouted. She didn’t shout at lady S - she was just shouty iyswim.

Lady S has put in a formal complaint saying she has been bullied and colleague A was unprofessional. Colleague A often behaves like this it’s her passion that makes her good at her job.

If all the sales staff behaved in the quiet demure way the support staff do no sales would get made! But the whole support area is up in arms about poor lady S.

TBH I think lady S is a bit of a wuss but I am wondering if I am too harsh. Colleague A is really valuable to the business, lady S is easily replaceable.

Sorry, wrong thread

What an awful sounding workplace - staffed by arrogant, juvenile sales staff who don't seem to have two brain cells to rub together...

Do you think the OP has grown up and left the thread?

Do you think the OP has grown up and left the thread?

SHE’S GOT A FUCKING STRESSFUL JOB BRINGING IN THE MONEY. HASN’T GOT TIME TO BE HANGING AROUND ON MN WITH THE FUCKING PLEBS.

(HA HA HA)

HA HA HA

I rather think she was shocked that MN posters virtually unanimously said that she was U and it was she and her colleagues in sales that needed to 'grow up'.

justaguy All the ‘plebs’ are in OP’s office working in sales.

And I wonder why sales people have a bad reputation

I'm bemused by the fact that you keep referring to "the rules".
Rule 1 Be on time
Rule 2 Don't turn up to work pissed
Rule 3 Shout a lot like an eejit
It all seems a bit odd.
Perhaps you lot shouting and hollering like a group of demented banshees makes it difficult for her to do her job.
Weird.

Sales people are very low in the food chain. They truly are the “plebs”. Does the pp who
used that term actually know what the word “pleb” means?
Lol

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AND...
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Nice hairstyle.

Does the pp who used that term actually know what the word “pleb” means?

Very much so. I was being sarcastic.

I know.

I think the OP has disappeared.

I’m quite happy to pop back.

I was interested by the response and it certainly will make me adjust my behaviour. I think I was caught up in the team ethos. Although, as a team we will continue to be loud and laddish.

I am also interested by how appalled everyone is by bullying but when a posters states “ you are a cunt” or “you are a twat” that is perfectly fine. Even in my team with our horrible behaviour we would never dream of saying that to someone else.

Also I made it clear I am trying to be unidentifiable but posters want to make out my job is shit. It might be but someone who is nice who does a similar job might read the thread and be upset. Call me all the names you like but other people might be hurt. Someone who works in sales who is not a pleb or a cunt.

Slightly ironic that after being called out on my own behaviour I have to turn the mirror around.

Call me all the names you like but other people might be hurt.

But is it not also possible that the woman in your office, whom you have mocked on your OP and who, judging by your choice of user name, you consider to be a wuss might also be hurt by your behaviour also?

OP. Nah. Sorry but the injured soldier bit isn't working.

Nice try tho.

She might indeed be hurt if she read this and if I gave details of the job, what was said or the industry. All of which I haven’t given. I haven’t explained it well because I have made it so vague.

She was upset by the shouting but no one said “you are a cunt” if anyone had said that we all would have been shocked.

I’m not injured I’m perfectly fine.

I’m just wondering because I have looked at the other thread about bullying, see I’m thinking about it, when does the bully become the bullied. When does calling all sales people names have a negative effect not on me but on other ‘innocent’ sales people on the thread.

This was a goady thread so you can hardly be surprised at the reaction you got.

Some years ago I worked for a very sweet natured gentleman. He sold thousands upon thousands of items. Not just once, but month upon month. He was the most gracious, well behaved person I have ever met with beautiful manners. In all the time I worked with him (and other sales people) there was never a shout nor a roar from any of them. I was admin but an equal part of the team. The team all treated one another in polite fashion.
The profits were perfectly fine thanks very much.
No need for this.
It is pure bullshit.

‘Goady’ hmmmmmm I was thinking about it. I posted I realised we had gone too far in our bubble. I like the atmosphere but we need to be careful near others. I said I would moderate behaviour.

But many posters were horrified at the behaviour of the team and said how much they despised the behaviour and how terrible it was. Ok I will listen to that, but these same posters are quite happy to read “ you are a cunt” “ you are a twat” directed at someone else.

If you are unpleasant do you deserve to get bullied?

@ithinksheisawuss she was upset by the shouting. Doesn't matter if you or anyone else called her anything. Her comfort levels are different to yours, and kindness dictates we respect that in a working environment. That seems a mature and respectful way to go about things, unless you are a threenager no?