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To continue a pregnancy st 46-7

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Spoog1971xx · 11/03/2018 23:13

That's it really... 46 1/2 years old pretty much menopausal and I appear to be up the duff. 😳 I ttc for 20 years ( finally got pregnant with DS at 41 with IVF) DH has azospermia. Now this happens. I'd love another child but aibu? I'm ancient and I have high blood pressure. The chances of MC are 50 percent,Down syndrome ? What if I die when the kid is ten? Jesus this is a turn up for the books. Aibu to continue this knowing there may be complications by the bucket load?

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Imbluedabadee · 12/03/2018 00:34

Congratulations! Op forget about the numbers for a minute and just consider the fact that you wanted a baby, your dh will be on the ceiling with excitement at the idea of dc2, your dc1 is only 5 and you're pregnant! That's such fantastic news Grin

Anything can happen and you can cross those bridges when you get to them the same as anyone else but I think you really would regret not continuing this pregnancy Thanks

bluetongue · 12/03/2018 00:36

Congratulations OP. It’s good that you’re thinking through the practicalities but I think you would likely regret terminating this pregnancy just because of your age.

As others have said, get all the advice and tests you can. I can completely understand not wanting to have a SN child, especially at your age. Tests aren’t a total guarantee but you will at least know you’ve done everything you can.

thedayismine · 12/03/2018 00:47

Another congratulations from me ! My DC2 was born when I was 41 - when I commented on my age to my midwife she laughed and said 45/6 not unusual for a first baby .
Totally understand your caution but don't let the numbers scare you - as others have said they are statistics. I am surrounded by parents of all ages we all have different challenges xx

PlasticWatch · 12/03/2018 00:51

Wow what a shock but a happy one

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 12/03/2018 00:52

Definitely not being unreasonable.
I believe babies are sent for a purpose.
As pp says people have babies in their 50s.
Congratulations

Ginandplatonic · 12/03/2018 00:52

I had DS4 at 44. Had CVS at 11ish weeks because I needed to know early and for sure whether things were ok, and if they weren't, know in time for an early termination. The normal result was such a relief! The pregnancy and birth were completely uncomplicated (induced at term tho). And I don't stand out as being significantly older at the school gate - this is prob area-dependent, but late 30s, early 40s quite average for having babies around here. Good luck!

Wintertime4 · 12/03/2018 00:57

Congratulations!

No one bats an eyelid if a man becomes a Dad in his 40s or 50s.

I had a child at 43. I do think sometimes of how old I’ll be when he’s 20. However, I’m honestly giving him a better childhood that the child I had when I was 29. I’m financially stable. I’m super relaxed. I am more confident and capable. He has Sen but I don’t regret it for a minute.

I look at my friends daughter who had a child aged 20 same time I had mine. She was highly critical of me being older. Yet she could not have coped with a Sen child. She’s been living with her parents. Let’s tgem bring her son up 50% of the time as she’s still maturing herself. Fighting with the father who doesn’t do much. She’s younger so will be around longer.

So really, there are so many pluses and minuses to each age!

Cousinit · 12/03/2018 01:00

Congratulations, that is very exciting news for you. YANBU to worry but remember that although the risks are higher, you are still more than likely to have a healthy baby. Plenty of women have babies in their forties and always have done. We are now fortunate enough to live in times when we can also be properly monitored and cared for by medical
professionals. As someone else has suggested, you could book a harmony test if you are especially worried. I had a surprise third baby a couple of years ago aged 43. I was also worried about my age and risks to the baby but all went well and she is perfect. Our family wouldn't be without her now.

sandgrown · 12/03/2018 01:03

I had DS at age 45 after a 21 year gap.Pregnancy was great apart from high BP at the end.I had an amnio but all fine. He is 15 now and has a great relationship with older siblings. I hope to be around for a good few years yet! Go for it OP.Smile

NotASingleFuckToGive · 12/03/2018 01:04

Spoog1971xx my DM had me in her teens and she wasn't able to look after me, so I was raised by my DGP who were 48 and 51 then. I'm now approaching 40, have 3DC of my own, and my lovely parents who raised me are nearly 90 now, both still here. I feel lucky to have been loved and raised in a happy and warm place with my DGP, who were (as you say of yourself) not 'typical' baby-age parents!
I missed out on nothing by having slightly older parents, and if i did, I don't know of it. Congratulations OP Smile

SheSparkles · 12/03/2018 01:19

Some things are just meant. Congratulations x

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 12/03/2018 01:31

Congratulations. How exciting.

You were pregnant at 41, not long ago. The age gap will be quite small. This baby will be very much loved. There is lots of testing you can do if you are worried about abnormalities.

happyparty · 12/03/2018 03:50

Congratulations and I totally agree with the poster above saying that historically it's been the norm for childbearing years to continue until around 50 - certainly very late 40s

Cousinit · 12/03/2018 04:00

And as for worrying about not being around when your child is older...that can sadly happen to anyone at any age. In fact I seem to remember reading about a study that suggested older mothers tend to live longer! I will see if I can find it for you...

Charolais · 12/03/2018 04:23

My father-in-law's mother was 46 when she had him in 1918. He was healthy and so was she.

Tinkofhousepan · 12/03/2018 05:00

Congratulations OP! Firstly you have every right to feel as conflicted as you do right now.

You are right to have the reservations you do re your wonderful suprise (i think a lot of us would have the same worries), you're still in a bit of shock, you've just got through the nappy stage with your first child and have an established home life and routine again, and you're health concerns are totally valid.

HOWEVER Only a very very small percent of babies are born with difficulties. We are much more aware of the percentage of beautifully unique children out there now due to the ease of access to global information, and the various pro/hater groups out there drawing attention to their opinions on disability.

BUT I know a few lovely ladies through work that have had their first child at your age or older oldest one 59 and the resulting children are all perfect, healthy and happy little people. Some of these women were in a similar position to you before you had your first at 41, but the IVF treatment sadly didnt take and they had given up on having children of their own when they fell pregnant.

One lady in particular was a very high risk pregnancy, and was originally told that it would be better for her to terminate but she didn't and her and her child are absolutely fine.

Don't make any decisions whilst you're in shock. Speak to your husband. I don't believe in a higher power or anything, but it sounds like you got your miracle baby.

notsohippychick · 12/03/2018 05:17

Ah OP congratulations!!!

Just take stock of your news for now. I sense that you feel thrilled by this, and that tells you a lot! No, you are right to consider the risks but with all pregnancies there are risks. You will get extra monitoring, tests etc and so you can be reassured that things are ok with the baby.

It is hard. I put off having a second child as my first has autism. I was so worried that he would be diagnosed too. Actually he was also diagnosed too just before Xmas. But I wouldn’t change him for the world. It’s hard, but parenting is hard. There are no guarantees with anything. Even if you were in your twenties!

Don’t worry about the ‘what if’s’...... this sounds like it’s meant to be.

Enjoy every single second. Xxxxx

herecomesthsun · 12/03/2018 05:31

I had my DD when I was 47. She is 6 now and the most gorgeous little girl. I wouldn't be without her for anything.

I get where you are coming from as I also felt "What! Now?" when I found out I was pregnant, and of course there are risks. Take things very easy for the first 3 months!

Of course it is your choice, but I found myself very swayed by the thinking of the prospective dad when making choices re tests etc.

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Spoog1971xx · 12/03/2018 08:08

Thankyou for all your kind words. I better get to the doctors I suppose ( last time I went it was for HRT )😂
I'm going to find out if all is well before I tell DH. Spent all night reading about what can go wrong.

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PilatesSuck · 12/03/2018 08:20

Good luck OP. Do you know how far long you should be?

DownInFraggleRock · 12/03/2018 08:21

Congratulations! The good thing is the 2 big things you’re worried about have yes/no answers. You’re at higher risk of MC, but if that happens, it happens. And you can get the harmony test for Down Syndrome and have a yes/ no answer for that early on and then make your decisions. Hope all goes well for you!

PilatesSuck · 12/03/2018 08:23

And congratulations, thats pretty amazing. Yes MC is always a chance but that too can happen at any age.

sevenstars · 12/03/2018 08:24

OP, I think all you can do is have the early screening tests and then make a decision based on facts. Chances are, everything will be fine.

I get your concerns about being in your 60s when your child is 20, but think of it this way - at least your DC1 will have a sibling for support in the future, come what may. Anyway, children keep you young. There are women in their 30s who smoke and have a bad diet who are in a worse state than women in their 60s who look after themselves.

Congrats and fingers crossed!

redandsilver · 12/03/2018 08:49

No one bats an eyelid if a man becomes a Dad in his 50s.

Actually they do. There is this myth that 'men are allowed to do it! And no-one says anything.' But people DO still look a bit Hmm if a man becomes a dad of a newborn at 45-50. Why are people pretending it doesn't happen?

And yeah, women are maybe judged slightly more, because it is the woman having the baby, and putting her (middle aged) body through pregnancy and childbirth. And if the couple split, it will be the woman looking after the child on her own at a time when she should be enjoying her life and freedom.

In addition, there are much higher health risks to the mother, AND a much higher chance of there being health issues with the baby. Also you are way more tired and weary at 50-plus, and will not be able to give the same kind of energy to a child at that age. And like it or not, children will be judged by their peers at school when someone who looks like their granny is picking them up from school, and it's actually their mother!

I am shocked that there are so many posts supporting having a baby at nearly 50, and so many posts saying 'my granny is still fighting fit at 91 etc etc.' The fact is that these are the exception rather than the rule, and it is more likely that the child will be having to care for elderly and ailing parents, at only 15-25 when they should be enjoying their youth. Or they will become orphan at a young age (less than 25 probably, and maybe at a time when they need their parents for support, like if they have just had a baby.)

I have known 3 or 4 people in my life, whose parents had them at 44 to 46 y.o, and the parents died at a very crucial time in the child's life. When they were at college or uni, or when they were planning marriage, or had not long had their first baby, and needed parental support.

As I said before, some people may be as fit as a butchers dog at 99, and running marathons and so on, but that is not as common as people dying - or becoming infirm at 65-70-ish. All this 'yeah but you could have a baby at 25, and die in a car crash at 26' is just hyperbole. Because the fact is that you are WAY more likely to leave your child without parents when they are young if you have a baby at 50, than if you have a baby at 25!

And even if you don't die (at 70-72-ish,) you are still more likely to need care at that age than not! Right now, I know of FIVE different women who are caring for ailing parents, whilst holding down a job, and/or looking after young kids themselves. Two of these people are only in their mid 20's, because the mother had them in middle age. Every one of them is permanently knackered and stressed. Every one of them have parents who are 67 to 72. Not one is 'fighting fit' at 90.

Sure there is the odd exception, but being super fit and completely independent with no ailments or conditions or illnesses at all, past the age of 75, is quite rare. And to have a child at 50, knowing what they could be having to put up with when they are only 15-25 years old, and should be enjoying their life, and getting parental support, is just plain selfish IMO.

And don't even get me started on the health implications for a baby born to a mother who is over 45. I am actually stunned at the amount of people on here saying 'yeahhh go for it! It'll be amazing!' 'I know a woman who had a baby in her FIFTIES,' and 'my nana is still fit as a butcher's dog and totally independent at 99!' Hmm

It's not a puppy you're having; it's a baby - a human life that you will be responsible for, for at LEAST 20 years - possibly longer if there are health issues with the baby.

I am also willing to bet that most people saying this would not have a baby over the age of 45.

I am also amazed at the amount of posters who have had a baby at 48 to mid 50's, or KNOW loads of people who have. I have only known of 5 or 6 women have a baby in middle age, in my whole LIFE, and NOT ONE was over 50. Not one. They were all 43 to 46.

Apologies to the OP @spoog1971xx if you find my post negative, but some common sense and reality needs injecting into this thread, to counterbalance all of the gushing 'yay, a new baby at 50, it will all be soooo great' and unrealistic 'my nana is 91 and fitter than me at 35' type of posts...

redandsilver · 12/03/2018 08:49

No one bats an eyelid if a man becomes a Dad in his 50s.

Actually they do. There is this myth that 'men are allowed to do it! And no-one says anything.' But people DO still look a bit Hmm if a man becomes a dad of a newborn at 45-50. Why are people pretending it doesn't happen?

And yeah, women are maybe judged slightly more, because it is the woman having the baby, and putting her (middle aged) body through pregnancy and childbirth. And if the couple split, it will be the woman looking after the child on her own at a time when she should be enjoying her life and freedom.

In addition, there are much higher health risks to the mother, AND a much higher chance of there being health issues with the baby. Also you are way more tired and weary at 50-plus, and will not be able to give the same kind of energy to a child at that age. And like it or not, children will be judged by their peers at school when someone who looks like their granny is picking them up from school, and it's actually their mother!

I am shocked that there are so many posts supporting having a baby at nearly 50, and so many posts saying 'my granny is still fighting fit at 91 etc etc.' The fact is that these are the exception rather than the rule, and it is more likely that the child will be having to care for elderly and ailing parents, at only 15-25 when they should be enjoying their youth. Or they will become orphan at a young age (less than 25 probably, and maybe at a time when they need their parents for support, like if they have just had a baby.)

I have known 3 or 4 people in my life, whose parents had them at 44 to 46 y.o, and the parents died at a very crucial time in the child's life. When they were at college or uni, or when they were planning marriage, or had not long had their first baby, and needed parental support.

As I said before, some people may be as fit as a butchers dog at 99, and running marathons and so on, but that is not as common as people dying - or becoming infirm at 65-70-ish. All this 'yeah but you could have a baby at 25, and die in a car crash at 26' is just hyperbole. Because the fact is that you are WAY more likely to leave your child without parents when they are young if you have a baby at 50, than if you have a baby at 25!

And even if you don't die (at 70-72-ish,) you are still more likely to need care at that age than not! Right now, I know of FIVE different women who are caring for ailing parents, whilst holding down a job, and/or looking after young kids themselves. Two of these people are only in their mid 20's, because the mother had them in middle age. Every one of them is permanently knackered and stressed. Every one of them have parents who are 67 to 72. Not one is 'fighting fit' at 90.

Sure there is the odd exception, but being super fit and completely independent with no ailments or conditions or illnesses at all, past the age of 75, is quite rare. And to have a child at 50, knowing what they could be having to put up with when they are only 15-25 years old, and should be enjoying their life, and getting parental support, is just plain selfish IMO.

And don't even get me started on the health implications for a baby born to a mother who is over 45. I am actually stunned at the amount of people on here saying 'yeahhh go for it! It'll be amazing!' 'I know a woman who had a baby in her FIFTIES,' and 'my nana is still fit as a butcher's dog and totally independent at 99!' Hmm

It's not a puppy you're having; it's a baby - a human life that you will be responsible for, for at LEAST 20 years - possibly longer if there are health issues with the baby.

I am also willing to bet that most people saying this would not have a baby over the age of 45.

I am also amazed at the amount of posters who have had a baby at 48 to mid 50's, or KNOW loads of people who have. I have only known of 5 or 6 women have a baby in middle age, in my whole LIFE, and NOT ONE was over 50. Not one. They were all 43 to 46.

Apologies to the OP @spoog1971xx if you find my post negative, but some common sense and reality needs injecting into this thread, to counterbalance all of the gushing 'yay, a new baby at 50, it will all be soooo great' and unrealistic 'my nana is 91 and fitter than me at 35' type of posts...