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AIBU or are we all going to be trapped in the UK from next March?

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Clarissalarissa · 11/03/2018 15:23

So, Ryanair and Thomas Cook are inserting clauses in their booking terms to say that if your flight abroad doesn't go ahead because of Brexit that's your problem. No doubt others will follow. If any deal is ever done, to allow planes to fly, it is bound to be a lot more expensive than it is now.

Is everyone planning many years of UK-only holidaying?

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scaryteacher · 11/03/2018 15:56

Oh come on OP, that quote is from O'Leary, reported by the DT. Anything that man says can be taken with an entire box of salt.

Many of us manage to get to and from mainland Europe with monotonous regularity (because we live there) without setting foot in an aeroplane - we drive, using the tunnel or ferry, or take the Eurostar. Are those going to stop as well?

OhYouBadBadKitten · 11/03/2018 15:56

Goodness, there are some exceedingly unpleasant people out to play today.

ohnomoresnow · 11/03/2018 15:57

'Unpleasant people'

Translation; People who don't agree with me.

Roussette · 11/03/2018 15:57

Total tripe ohno Grin

It isn't just families that go abroad for an all inclusive to Benidorm, travellers fly on business from everywhere in the UK to everywhere in Europe yet Michael O'Leary the twat seems to have an irish crystal ball and says all that will stop. Yeah right...

If you actually read what he says... he is threatening to ground Ryanair flights to force the government and voters to rethink Brexit. A little bit different to what you're saying OP

Bluelady · 11/03/2018 15:57

I remember the days before we were part of the EU. There was a huge transparent dome over the whole of the UK and people in Cornwall and Scotland were hammering on it with bleeding knuckles imploring to be released. Life was so grim.

OutyMcOutface · 11/03/2018 15:57

Are you actually that stupid or is this a joke?

Clarissalarissa · 11/03/2018 15:57

tilly - it's not very easy to get on with your life and take a que sera sera attitude when your only income comes from tourism from the rest of Europe. How would you feel if your income had already gone down massively, and was likely to stop altogether in the near future?
There's not much fruit or veg picking around here, or i could no doubt get a job doing that.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 11/03/2018 15:57

Well times question scaryteacher.

www.thelocal.fr/20180309/calais-port-could-see-30-mile-long-tailbacks-after-brexit

According to the port chief, yes, Calais too could grind to a halt unless we get our act together.

kerryweaverscrutch · 11/03/2018 15:58

If you actually read what he says... he is threatening to ground Ryanair flights to force the government and voters to rethink Brexit

No he isn't.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 11/03/2018 15:59

unpleasant people = those who call others names and deride them.

abbsisspartacus · 11/03/2018 15:59

So people will be forced to go to Blackpool for a holiday WITH POOR PEOPLE OMG!!!

LillianGish · 11/03/2018 15:59

Well I don’t think you’ll be trapped, but I think it might well be the end of cheap flights we’ve all got used to.

MichaelBendfaster · 11/03/2018 16:01

we drive, using the tunnel or ferry, or take the Eurostar. Are those going to stop as well?

Well, that is an interesting question. I have been wondering how the Eurostar, ferries etc will be policed.

Clarissalarissa · 11/03/2018 16:01

How many people can fit on Eurostar or the ferry? We are hundreds of miles from the nearest ferry, anyway. People who live in Portugal and Italy are not going to get the ferry to the UK, let alone to the north of the UK.
Do people really not get what this is already doing to the tourist industry. There has already been a big move in favour of people travelling to Ireland instead.

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scaryteacher · 11/03/2018 16:01

IATA anyone?

scaryteacher · 11/03/2018 16:02

Ohyou I use Dunkirk!

IrenetheQuaint · 11/03/2018 16:02

It would be really useful to read an informed account by someone who understands the Open Skies directive, explaining how the UK can renegotiate participation in time to avoid any issues with flying post March 2019. Can anyone who is sure there won't be a problem explain their rationale? I don't know enough about the subject to understand the level of risk and would be really glad to understand more.

kerryweaverscrutch · 11/03/2018 16:02

Perhaps you could stop calling people deluded and explain to us how travel to europe will work given that every agreement and law will be null and void, and free movement will be at an end?

We'll wait.

Roussette · 11/03/2018 16:04

kerry Yes he is. This report in the Evening Standard is totally wrong then.

"Ryanair is threatening to ground its flights after the UK withdraws from the European Union to persuade voters to "rethink" Brexit.

The Dublin-based carrier's chief executive Michael O'Leary said he wants to "create an opportunity" by making people realise they are "no longer going to have cheap holidays".

He told an audience of airline leaders in Brussels: "I think it's in our interests -"

O'Leary is good at publicity I'll give him that. Easyjet CEO has already said, if you do that, we'll pick up the routes.

Clarissalarissa · 11/03/2018 16:04

The Open Skies agreement allows EU airlines, including those registered in the UK, to operate in each other’s countries. Unlike other sectors, aviation cannot fall back on World Trade Organisation rules.
No sign of anyone sorting out a new deal, and not really much time left, is there>

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 11/03/2018 16:04

I think those thinking about ferries and the eurotunnel should be wondering about what happens if we all start needing to go through more vigorous checks and what will happen to freight. At the moment, small delays in either cause huge backlogs to build up on either side. Anyone who has recently been put in the holding car park at the tunnel in Calais will attest to that. When those delays become permanent it's going to cause massive issues if we think we can just carry on as we are.

Eltonjohnssyrup · 11/03/2018 16:05

Micheal O’Leary is pro-remain and has an interest in catastrophisising.

Anybody who could claim Michael O’Leary is a reliable, honest or balanced source of information clearly doesn’t know much about him...

Trunkisareshite · 11/03/2018 16:05

The visa issue doesn’t bother me, I imagine it would work similarly to the Turkish system, about £10 before you go that you print off or slightly more if you forget and have to get one when you get to the airport.

Some SEA countries are the same.

There’s no mad panic or interview needed. Obviously working visas are different but I see no issue with being selective about chooseing what skills your country needs and prioritising people with them.

It’s the cost that concerns me but we will just have to see how it all works out.

mrsreynolds · 11/03/2018 16:05

No no op

You've got it ALL wrong

The countless businesses and airline companies that are warning govt about catastrophic losses are just remoaners scaremongerers!!

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