To think if you've killed & raped women we don't give a flying fuck what you think on any given matter

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Lord Patel has invited rapist killer 'Karen Jones', who says he is a woman to Parliament. Jones killed his partner aged 17, then raped a woman five days after being released and was sentenced to 'life' in 2002.

www.standard.co.uk/news/transexual-rapist-jailed-6971617.html

Now he has been released and Lord Patel has invited him to the House of Lords to advise on some matter that I can't really be bothered to mention. AIBU to not give a shit what he says and think he shouldn't have any kind of voice least of all in Parliament?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5440153/Trans-convict-invited-speak-House-Lords.html

Lord Patel thinks he has paid his debt to society. I think this is a grave insult, both to the man he killed and the woman he raped who thought she was going to die during his attack.

I did it too. Woop.

Why are we not hearing about female to male trans people? Why are organisations not seeking their voice?

Why?

Because the reality is that there is a war on women, they are chipping away our human rights and are using male to female trans people to do this.

Fucking patriarchal misogynistic global society.

Just had this brought to my attention: the new Judiciary "Equal Treatment Bench Book". Some very good stuff in there, but the trans section is a total hot mess, ripe for abuse.

www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/equal-treatment-bench-book-february2018-v4.pdf

The transgender person’s views on where they would prefer to be located within the prison estate must to be taken into account by the board

Yeah, what an excellent idea. < slow clap >

I would like my opinions taken into account. I would like to be located near the showers and the food hall, preferably by a chocolate machine and definitely nowhere near any criminal male bodies people.

Cheers.

Perhaps the few dozen men (and two women) doing whole-life tariffs could address their Lordships’ House about the iniquity of them never seeing the outside world again. Preferably by video link.

It’s a mad world, isn’t it?

I am seriously tempted to write to Lord Patel asking to be invited to give my view on this.

Following.

Perhaps the few dozen men (and two women) doing whole-life tariffs could address their Lordships’ House about the iniquity of them never seeing the outside world again. Preferably by video link.

No, not via video link. In person. And not in the House of Lords. In their own homes, if it’s safe enough for women in prison, it’s safe enough for their wives, mothers, daughters, sisters etc right?

This makes me sick to my stomach.

We don't matter at all.

If it was a woman who murdered and sexually assaulted a man because, poor me I’m upset and so saaaaad, she would still be in a woman’s prison and no one would give her tie time of day.

I can't believe how lenient the system has been. If a proper sentence was originally imposed and followed through with, that poor rape victim would never have been attacked.

IMO the system focuses far too much on the offender, and completely disregards future potential victims. It's almost like because they don't know exactly who the future victim might be, it doesn't matter. ie, 1000 offenders released, each with a 5% chance of raping someone => 50 people get raped, but it's a lottery so who cares? That seems to be the current system, and it's an absolute disgrace.

I have no doubt that so many men in power, including politicians are using the MRA agenda as an excuse to put women back in ‘their place’.

I have no doubt about it either and, more than that, as much as we are scratching our heads and wondering how on earth they can allow it and just why they can't see it, they are scratching their heads and wondering how on earth it took any of them so long to realise that this was the solution...

Has anyone else who wrote to Lord Patel been invited to the House of Lords to discuss their concerns with him?

This is the email:

Dear myname

Lord Patel has returned from abroad and would like to invite you to meet with him at the House of Lords to discuss your concerns. Please let me know if you are free to meet with him on any of the following dates:

19 March – 5.30 pm
21 March – 9.30 am
22 March – 10.00 am
27 March – 6.00 pm

If none of these are suitable, please let me know and we’ll look at alternative dates.

Regards
Sherife

Sherife Hasan
Research/Policy Officer to
Professor Lord Patel of Bradford OBE

Gosh! I didn't write to lord Patel. I haven't heard from women and equality commission.

I'm in shock! @pisacake? Anyone else?

Oh that is great twofalls

I wrote to my (rock solid Torry --tosser of an) MP and got a long and waffly reply about 6 weeks later saying due process blah blah blah bollocks

Oh sorry I thought this was the John Warboys thread

I read today the John Worboys brought along Levi Bellfield for support to parole meetings!!!