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‘Women who dress like slags cheapen the rest of us’.

342 replies

Eltonjohnssyrup · 25/02/2018 22:43

Said by my mother who is as left wing as Trotsky, a Corbynista and a self identified feminist.

I did say to her at the time that I thought using the word ‘slag’ was wrong. But my sons were there at the time and although two of them are too young to understand I find it worrying they might internalise that kind of thing.

We have a fractious relationship anyway (she used to call me promiscuous as an older teenager because I’d had a snog and a grope). So I don’t want to cause a lot of friction. But I wonder if I should send her an email saying that isn’t acceptable.

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AnUtterIdiot · 25/02/2018 23:27

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RideOn · 25/02/2018 23:27

I don’t know about the email.

I think I’d teach my children differently, if she says it again, I’d say again it’s not right to call women slags.

If you can see she is wrong and were brought up by her, give your sons some credit, that they will be able to hear her opinions but make up their own minds.

Sparklesocks · 25/02/2018 23:28

I never understand people who call women sluts/slags etc - why so obsessed with another person’s sex life? Does it impact on you in any way? Even if that’s not what you agree with/approve of personally, why do you care what other people do? Bizarre

FucksakeCuntingFuckingTwats · 25/02/2018 23:29

I read, apparently, a slag is someone with the morals of a man.

What does a slag “look and dress like” and do all slags know the rules they should be conforming to, to fit that stereotype.

Eltonjohnssyrup · 25/02/2018 23:29

Calling other women slags is doing the patriarchy's job for it. Tell your mum so when she brings this up again, as she plainly will.

I am going to repeat this to her. So true.

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JaneJeffer · 25/02/2018 23:32

This is the worst thread I have ever seen on here. Not you OP but the people who agree with your DM. Women can dress however the fuck they like.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 25/02/2018 23:33

Argels. By act like slags I assume you mean shagging around. Well last time I checked these 'slags' don't shag themselves. There fore I take you have a few choice words for the blokes, too.

FleetwoodSmack · 25/02/2018 23:35

Calling other women slags is doing the patriarchy's job for it.

Indeed. Or ask her with every appearance of deep interest about Male Slags, or indeed any subset of men whose choice of underwear mysteriously 'cheapens' the rest of the male sex in the eyes of women.

Does a glimpse of a man in a mankini, for instance, or anything other than M and S boxers and a nice cotton vest mean all women subsequently regard all men as gagging for it, and therefore despicable...?

logicalmum · 25/02/2018 23:40

I think men can definitely be "slags,"i just wish there was a better word to describe them.

AskBasil · 25/02/2018 23:43

The word slag is hatespeak but isn't recognised as such because hatred of women is so normal, that no-one even notices it's a thing.

I'm not remotely surprised that a trotskyist/ corbinist / any male identified lefty woman uses this anti-woman language.

The left's misogyny is as visceral as that of the right, in spite of its formally progressive stance.

Old habits die hard.

bluescreen · 25/02/2018 23:43

Blimey. Some weird responses on here. Your mum is BVU to use the word 'slag'; as someone said upthread it's doing the patriarchy's job. Does she think women always have to keep their knees together or something?

OTOH there can be something unsettling about women wearing highly sexualised gear, such as corsets, suspenders and no skirt, etc. It's disturbing because it attracts indiscriminate male attention, which no one who's been round the block is going to be that keen on because indiscriminate male .

But how 'they cheapen the rest of us' (if indeed they cheapen themselves!) defeats me, unless your mum means that they draw male attention to female characteristics like breasts, cunt etc. Which no male had ever noticed before. Which no one sane would ever want to do, ever. Shock

GUMBYMUMBY · 25/02/2018 23:44

I don't see why you cannot be a socialist feminist slag...

Didn't Frida Kahlo have an affair with Trotsky? I think she was a bit of a goer and there are loads of nude photos of her. So she must have been a 'slag'.

LassWiADelicateAir · 25/02/2018 23:46

I wouldn’t necessarily agree with your Mum’s comment that women who dress like slags cheapen other women though. I think it makes those of us who dress and act like ladies stand out for the right reasons

I am of the opinion that whilst the concept of being a lady or a gentleman might seem old hat or class- ridden there are worthwhile elements of decency and good manners in the concept.

You might dress as ladylike as Grace Kelly or Audrey Hepburn or the Duchess of Cambridge but don't kid yourself you are a lady.

BadTasteFlump · 25/02/2018 23:49

Your mother called you a slag when you were a teenager?

You should have given up on her years ago. I wouldn't try to 'keep the peace' with her, I would tell her exactly what I thought of her and hope that gets her out of my life.

user1490607838 · 25/02/2018 23:50

Women who call other women 'slags' for wearing short skirts and low cut tops and having bleached blonde hair and heavy-ish make up, are nasty, bitter, jealous bints, and are screaming 'what I wouldn't give to look like that, and get away with dressing like that.' It is ALWAYS women who were at the back of the queue when God was giving out beauty and good looks, who make snide and repugnant comments about other women who look good.

I have always dressed like this, and had bleached blonde hair, big boobs, and a cracking pair of legs that I like to show off, and the amount of jealous cunts I have had commenting, and telling me I should cover up as I looked 'tarty' and sneering, and looking at me as if I was a piece of shit on their shoe, is phenomenal.

And yes, I have been called a slag and a tart too. Know what I do? Wear a fucking shorter skirt the next day. I even had a bitchy cunt of a female manager TELLING me to dress more appropriately once. When I looked at the staff handbook, there was FUCK-ALL in there about not being allowed to wear a skirt that was 2 inches above my knees. So the next day, I wore one even shorter.

Some women cannot BEAR it when there is another woman around them who is more attractive than them, and who gets a lot of attention from men. And no that is NOT the reason I dress in short skirts and show my cleavage a bit. It's because I have a cracking figure, and a great pair of legs, and I am proud of the way I look.

And every last one of the women who berates me is jealous through and through.

Calling a woman a SLAG because she is dressed - in your opinion - provocatively - makes you a nasty, bitter, jealous oik.

Willow2017 · 25/02/2018 23:50

Whats the male equivalent of 'a slag'?

Oh yes i remember..
'A studd'
'Hes sowing his wild oats'
'A ladies man'

Not quite the same are they?

Women sleep around they deserve derision. Men sleep around and get a pat on the back.

Ffs its 2018. Women can sleep with whoever they want to and shhhh dont tell anyone, they might even like sex!

JanetStWalker · 25/02/2018 23:50

I read, apparently, a slag is someone with the morals of a man

That's not necessarily something to be admired. Why should we lower our standards to ape the behaviour of men?

NotUmbongoUnchained · 25/02/2018 23:54

To be fair, male slags are now referred to as fuck boys, and it’s definitely not a compliment or seen in a good way!

Eltonjohnssyrup · 25/02/2018 23:54

Women who call other women 'slags' for wearing short skirts and low cut tops and having bleached blonde hair and heavy-ish make up, are nasty, bitter, jealous bints, and are screaming 'what I wouldn't give to look like that, and get away with dressing like that.' It is ALWAYS women who were at the back of the queue when God was giving out beauty and good looks, who make snide and repugnant comments about other women who look good.

No, no, no, no. My mother looked absolutely amazing. Very god looking. But she resented me for becoming a teenager when she was moving into her middle age.

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AtomHeart · 25/02/2018 23:54

She sounds a little vicious but I think she has a point in that women who flaunt their bodies in an overtly sexualised way do little to help the feminist cause. Men don't do it do they?

Coyoacan · 26/02/2018 00:05

I would not want to have anyone in my life who thinks "slags" is an acceptable word to describe a woman or a woman's appearance

Perfectly put.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 26/02/2018 00:05

Yes some men do do it.

Usually the gym buff types but flaunt it they do.

GottadoitGottadoit · 26/02/2018 00:05

I think it makes those of us who dress and act like ladies stand out for the right reasons

Reminds me of David Williams dressed as a woman with a tash Grin

Queenoftheblitz · 26/02/2018 00:08

I think it's a word that needs to become obolete. Op your mum, for all her good looks, was jealous of your youth and clearly doesn't like women.

user1490607838 · 26/02/2018 00:09

@AtomHeart

She sounds a little vicious but I think she has a point in that women who flaunt their bodies in an overtly sexualised way do little to help the feminist cause. Men don't do it do they?

Oh dear God! Confused

FFS, just hop back in your time machine and naff off back to the middle ages where your views belong! Hmm

@eltonjohnsyrup

No, no, no, no. My mother looked absolutely amazing. Very god looking. But she resented me for becoming a teenager when she was moving into her middle age.

I am still mostly correct about this though. Your mother was jealous of you being youthful and having all your best years ahead of you, because her 'good looks' were fading, and her best years behind her.

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