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To consider telling everyone the truth

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Choc0lat · 13/02/2018 13:59

Afternoon. I'm posting because I'm completely exhausted with feeling the way I do about my DB and having to keep quiet about this situation. I can't go into every little detail as I don't want to be outed on here but here goes. I have two brothers, one older and one younger. The younger one and I get on really well but my older db is a complete nightmare and even more so since he met his wife to be. My db is obsessive by nature, extremely money driven and is all me me me. He pretends to care about other people and will do things for people but it's easy to see that he resents it and it's all an act.

So, just before Christmas he announced to the family that he and his partner had come into a fairly substantial amount of money. He claimed his girlfriend had won it online playing bingo and no one thought anymore of it. We congratulated them both and as expected got on with our own lives. However there were a few things that weren't adding up when I thought about it and occasionally they'd act cagey but again, i never thought any more of it.

That was until a few days ago my partner was in the pub having a drink with a friend after work and a mutual friend of his and my brothers came over and asked for a word. This man is a long trusted friend and friend of the family and he said he had something important to tell my partner. He told him that my db and his girlfriend didn't win a penny online and that the money came from somewhere else. I can't say were exactly but let's just say it's not legal. My dp told me about this when he got back home and I have thought of nothing else since.

Like I said I completely trust this person and whilst I love my db I can't say I trust him in the same way as I know him though and through and he is relentless, driven and will stop at nothing to get what he wants no matter who gets hurt or how risky it is. Now I'm wondering what do I do with this information.

I felt pure disgust and anger when I found out and feel that my db is a complete disgrace. What he has done is incredibly risky, immoral and even more so when you factor in the they have a young baby that needs taking care of. What gets me is that he goes around pretending he's perfect, he judges me on my life when I don't hurt anyone, will do anything for my friends and family and usually keep my nose out of other people's business.

I know he didn't have to but he hasn't provided any proof that he and his girlfriend won this money and knowing him the way I do I'm pretty certain what has been said about him is true. If it were me who had come into such an amount of money I wouldn't be telling all and sundry but I'd no doubt show my parents, friends and family the cheque I'd received or a picture of my big fat bank account. I know that people are different but like I've already said I know my db and he would be shouting it from the rooftops an showing everyone if he'd really won that money. My parents think the sun shines out of his backside and haven't a clue what's been going on so now I need to decide what to do. Just do me a favour though, say anything you want but don't accuse me of beig jelalois, ie of his money or the attention he gets from my parents. I'm a grown adult and I'm not driven by money, I'm driven by my kids, partner, living life etc. My parents are amazing and treat all three of us the same but they, like the rest of our family are being lied to day in day out and I don't think it's fair. Any advice welcome.

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Finola1step · 13/02/2018 14:39

So a cannabis farm in a house that he owns but does not live in. How nice for the neighbours.

You have 3 choices:

  1. Shop him
  2. Tell your parents
  3. Do nothing.

Only you can decide. But there is of course option 4 which is to bide your time. If it is already being talked about, then it will eventually pop up on some copper's radar, if it hasn't already.

tickingthebox · 13/02/2018 14:39

If it's illegal, then report (anonymously) to the police and then it can be resolved.

I wouldn't "tell" on him to family members as this will backfire on you.

Finola1step · 13/02/2018 14:39

Farm you ate absolutely right. It does.

Choc0lat · 13/02/2018 14:39

It just makes so much sense and that's what worried me. I mean their property has been vacant for a long time and I don't prentend to be in the know when it comes to profiting from it, but it must be substantial. My feeling is that they've been pocketing this money, saving it up and then they decided to announce it in disguise of a windfall.

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thecatsthecats · 13/02/2018 14:40

To be fair, I think the posters saying 'keep out of it' are mostly responding to the suggestion that OP 'outs' her brother to their family and friends. Which doesn't serve any great moral purpose in itself.

TeasndToast · 13/02/2018 14:40

Plumsofwrath is spot on with advice. You really need to consider truly what your motivations are. Is it TRULY out of concern for his victims? Is there something deeper? Consider the consequences on you once you tell.
If all of it sits comfortably with you then you will know what path to choose.

ReanimatedSGB · 13/02/2018 14:40

Stay out of it. I don't have a huge ethical problem with cannibis farming anyway (compared to many other ways people make money) and you have no actual proof. If you start blabbing, it is more likely that the whole family will decide you are a spiteful bitch and ignore what you say (even if it turns out to be true.)

Chowmum · 13/02/2018 14:41

If they're growing dope and making money out of it, then that is dealing.
Supply and production of a Class B substance carries a maximum of 14 years or an unlimited fine.

Married3Children · 13/02/2018 14:42

It’s funny how people would all Be ‘you Need to tell DWP etc..’ if it was benefit fraud.
But because it’s drugs, the OP needs to get out of it.

Choc0lat · 13/02/2018 14:42

I just can't get over the fact he would do something like this. Knowing him like I do sadly it wasn't as much of a shock if say I'd found out one of my parents were doing it but it was still a shock as things go. The thing is they don't even need be money. They have two houses, two fairly decent paid jobs, pensions etc. That's what gets me even more as it's just pure greed.

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suzy2b · 13/02/2018 14:43

i wouln't say anything they will probably yet caught out there are quite a few thing police do to find houses like that

alotalotalot · 13/02/2018 14:43

If individuals can be harmed I'd anonymously shop him. But only if it comes from genuine concern for them. There are a lot of dynamics at play here and it would be easy and understandable for them to get mixed up.

Giraffesarequitetall · 13/02/2018 14:44

Anonymous tip to the police about the house presuming you know its address. If its true it will soon get closed down, if it is not true your DB won't get into any trouble.

Agree totally that his behaviour, even if nowhere near your nephew still puts him in harms way. Surprisingly enough those involved in the drug trade are not generally the most level headed human beings, I certainly wouldn't want to be on their bad side.

Good luck OP, it's not an easy call but he is only going to get deeper and deeper into this unless it is stopped. The mutual friend knows, who else does?

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 13/02/2018 14:44

For gods sake you can’t sob your brother into the police . He will get caught eventually anyway

I would let him know you know though

As anyone stupid enough to pretend they won the bingo will get caught eventually

Sleephead1 · 13/02/2018 14:44

so it's growing weed? personally I don't agree with it but would I report my family to the police for it no. but some people would that would be up to the individual. If you do and he goes away and your family find out you reported what would happen I mean obviously your relationship with brother and his family would be gone but members of your family may take sides and some won t agree with you reporting him are you prepared for the fall out ? what I would do is tell him your partner has been approached whilst out and told this and people are talking about it so if it is some thing he is doing then he needs to be aware people know and then it's up to him if he has any sense he will stop but if he continues then he knows the risks.

Choc0lat · 13/02/2018 14:45

I personally dont agree with drugs (medication aside obvsupusly) no matter what their classification is. I've worked with addicts in the past and I've seen first hand the impact they have on both the person using and their families i.e. physically, emotionally, financially etc and it's not good.

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mumpoints · 13/02/2018 14:46

This has got to be one of the easiest crimes to report anonymously. It doesn't involve anything other than the police going around to an empty house to check out a tip-off. They do the rest. Just ring up or go online and report the address. No need to say how or why.

Doesn't matter what your motivation is imo.

Personwithhorse · 13/02/2018 14:48

Similar brother suddenly became a successful businessman, expensive cars loads of work to house holidays etc.

Then he was caught with a massive amount of drugs (£ millions) and is now in prison, nasty wife very upset she does not have loads of money anymore, not bothered he is banged up.

mumpoints · 13/02/2018 14:48

If people in the community know about it, which they obviously do as someone told your DP, no one will know who reported. However, they'll know your DP did nothing if it is not reported.

Floralnomad · 13/02/2018 14:48

Just tell the police anonymously .

Blackteadrinker77 · 13/02/2018 14:49

Your title reads "To consider telling everyone the truth"

But you don't know the truth

Choc0lat · 13/02/2018 14:49

I have no idea who else knows tonne honest. We live in a small town where everyone seems to know everyone else business so I'm surprised it's gone on as long as it has. I do have concern for any victim of crime including drugs and despite end harbouring ill feeling for my db this hasn't always been the case. I think we've had two arguements throughout our Life. As a person I'm not arguementative by nature and just want a peaceful life and be surrounded my people who are nice caring and honest.

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Bluntness100 · 13/02/2018 14:50

For goodness sake. If he was doing something illegal he would simply have said nothing about money, It's not like he had to tell uou he came into money. Logically anyone who was coining it in illegally would say nothing. If spend come up they could just say they saved it. There is no need for them to say they won any money or even mention it to any of you.

So some gossip from some guy in the pub and you're convinced he's come about the money Illegally. I suspect the guy is like you. Jealous.

So you can go with the jealous gossip and be ostracised from your family when proven wrong, or you can ask yourself why someone who was involved in illegal activity would even mention money and why you'd be so desperate to believe pub gossip over your own brother.

Rudgie47 · 13/02/2018 14:50

I'd just mind my own business if he goes to prison thats his lookout. Not your problem.

Choc0lat · 13/02/2018 14:50

I'm not saying I'm going to dob my db into the police but I think I'm going to tell him what I know and I see what he has to say for himself.

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