To be given milk to drink that had been open for 3 days!

[LittleMe03]

Now I expect to be flamed for this, and for it to seem really silly to lots of people....

.... but I was diagnosed with IBS around 4 years ago now after being terribly ill on and off for a few months.

I was told to keep a diary to figure out what 'triggers' caused me problems. After around a year I worked out what foods and drinks caused me to be poorly.

I love milk, will drink 1/2 a pint a day on its own or have it with cereal, I rarely drink any hot drinks. However, I soon realised that if my milk was not REALLY fresh (used same day opened or day after) I got terrible stomach pains. So even thou it's more expensive I tend to buy a pint at a time for home use and I try to avoid drinking milk elsewhere.

I nipped in to see my sister today after work, she is well aware of this strange issue of mine. She asked me if I would like a drink. I said I fancied milk but if she didn't have 'fresh' milk i would have some water. She went to the kitchen and came back with a glass of milk claiming 'I have just opened it' I drank it and soon after left.

About an hour ago I started to feel really funny, stomach pains and grumbling pains I couldn't figure out where I had gone wrong and rang my sister to check on the milk she had given me. She laughed and said it had been open a few days but it was fine so she didn't think anything of it and thought I was just paranoid

AIBU to be upset with her? I didn't say much to her on the phone other than explain that I do think that could be why I may now feel poorly tonight

Adults shouldn't really drink milk, dairy is for babies.

What bollocks! Dairy is for anyone who wants to eat/drink dairy. There’s no age-restriction

Once opened bacteria grows steadily so yes it’s not as fresh as the same day it’s opened.

However I would encourage OP to try a temporary stop drinking of milk and milk products to see if it stops all symptoms.

To answer OPs question your sister did not take your request serious enough and probably caused sickness. Tell you sister what happened.

Have you actually tried lacto free or not?

Firstly- I wasn't aware that adults shouldn't drink milk confused

Really?! I thought everyone knew this.

I'm just struck by someone with IBS drinking that much milk. Usually it's the first trigger that gets scrapped even before the IBS diagnosis.

If you gave up the milk altogether, you'd probably feel loads better.

ok.

She shouldn't have lied.
But shouldn't you've smelled it?

I mean, I agree, milk does have a domewhat different smell when it was open for a few days.

What is the justification for Adults not drinking milk. Load of crap I love the stuff

I have tried lactose free and also goats milk and dislike both.

As I said thou, I never have issues with cows milk if it is freshly opened to me.

Answering a PP, yes the date does also matter but as I buy and usually it's drank within the same day as buying, or day after occasionally, the date on the milk is often at least a few days away.

Of course adults can drink milk! When is the age cut off supposed to be?

It's great for heartburn, I drink loads when pregnant.

Couldn't comment on the IBS other than to say I'd be annoyed with your sister too.

WinonaIsHot - who says adults shouldn’t drink milk? Think I missed that rule...

winona
Please tell us why an adult shouldn't drink milk 🤔

Have you tried a fermented milk like kefir? You might find it more tolerable.

This is like those people who give a little bit of wheat to a coliac, who think their house is allergen free just cos they have whizzed the hoover round, who serve meat to a protein intolerant or who think you could not possibly be allergic to their dog because it is short haired.
argh
Do they think we make these things up to be awkward? Your sister is wrong here and you are now suffering. Thanks sis!

I’m going to get flamed here but 'Maggie Maggie milk snatcher'was the one and only good thing she did for this country.

It was “Margaret Thatcher - milk snatcher” because, you know, it was meant to rhyme .

Infants still get free milk at school and now get free fruit and veg daily too.

good god to the people flaming drinking milk.get over it.
milk is fine to drink.my brother and other family drink it by the glass,healthiest people I know.bones better.teeth better than any of us.
lets not put cow guilt on people.pleease get over it!
try and get passed it.sibling can be weird.and do insestive stuff but if she usually loves you,dont worry it wasn't malicious.
just go back to drinking it as you like it.
if it becomes a think with you silently seething it will grow and then become something between the two of you that it never was or needed to be.
you love eacohter right? so just try to see that.she wouldn't hurt you.
maybe next time if your worried it happening again or need to say something just say something like "I no it seems weird or stupid but its something I feel better for doing ok please luv"

It's great for heartburn, I drink loads when pregnant

It’s actually not - it helps in that instant but actually makes heartburn worse later encouraging more acid

I control my dairy intake as it triggers my IBS. The more fatty or processed, the better my tolerance, so hard cheeses are fine in moderation, no issue with butter. Yoghurt and ice cream are a lottery. Tinned custard (so heated) may be OK in moderation. Milk in its natural form, no.

If I'm not sure what the milk content of something is (and if I'm not safe for handy toilets for the next 20 minutes to an hour, it's best to decline).

She shouldn't have lied, but it can sound fussy when you can/ can't have something in a variety of circumstances. I found it clearer when DS had a complete milk exclusion diet. People could understand no milk at all.
I phrase it as having a low tolerance, I can have x, y and z but I will regret other forms of it in order to not appear fussy and contradictory.

Buxbaum - are you a fan of The Archers?

Buxbaum Oh god fermented foods are my saviours. Miso and sauerkraut and pickles. I can eat them and eat them with no issues at all.

when my IBS is particularly bad Miso and rice noodles with some safe veggies keeps me going.

I get the lactose free semi skimmed milk from waitrose and honestly cannot taste and difference

And to the milk protestors, I had a gentleman come into my tearoom today who was out celebrating his 80th birthday by going for a hike on Dartmoor.. Should I have refused to serve him the milkshake he wanted?

and what would you suggest adults put on their cereal? I'm stuck for any alternative ideas

I have tried lactose free and also goats milk and dislike both

Try soya milk.

My DD has IBS - she's gluten intolerant, but has recently realised she's also dairy intolerant, & doesn't get on too well with meat either, so she's pretty much eliminated all 3 & is much better for it.

OP, if you really like drinking milk have you tried any of the non-dairy alternatives?

and milk from the farms on one of the freshest food we can get in the uk.
also whos to say when opened and bacteria slowsly grows it doesn't make it a difference to someone with an already sensitive ibs gut health.its often the strangest,smallest,stress related thngs that turn on ibs flare ups and its awful.so if same day milk helps and you enjoy it good on you.dont fret.keep slurping :)

Also, being lactose intolerant and having IBS are not the same thing although have similar symptoms.

IBS does not always mean you are lactose intolerant and everybody's triggers are different, or so I was told by my GP.

My main trigger is citrus fruits which I love but unfortunately have to avoid altogether.

Why dairy is for babies:

Dairy, like grains, are a common allergen that is only increasing. Many people react to casein, a protein found in dairy. According to some studies, it has a strong link to cancer and diabetes. Pasteurized milk also creates an acidic environment in your body, which leeches calcium from your bones to neutralize the acid.

This doesn't make immediate sense, considering that milk is supposed to be high in calcium. This causes joint pain and disrupts muscle recovery. Raw, unpasteurized milk is high in calcium and has many enzymes and nutrients that are good for infants and children, but it still contains the proteins people reacting to more and more.

Cow milk is not something humans were naturally meant to drink. Cow milk is made to sustain a cow through it's infancy. Since most lactose from all mammals, including humans, contains a lot of similar properties, raw milk can be beneficial for infants and young children. However, once processed the milk is stripped of a great deal of it's nutrients and the good properties change. Again, once you process something, it takes away from the process your body is meant to do.

Older children and adults do not need to be taking in any dairy at all. Our bodies have already matured past the point that milk is beneficial. Dairy makes older kids and adults gassy. This is a form of lactose intolerance. For some people, their lactose intolerance is greater and taking it in causes headaches, severe stomach pains, bloating, and diarrhea. Those people would be diagnosed with lactose intolerance, however in a small way all older children and adults do not tolerate lactose well, that's why cheese makes everyone gassy.

Furthermore, when cows are fed hormone and pesticide-laced grains, those hormones and toxins end up in the milk as well. This has been known to cause severe mood swings and hormonal imbalance.

The best way to take in dairy is from a local farmer, where you can get the milk unprocessed and know what the cow has been fed. As for adults, there is no actual need for dairy in your diet.

However, the human body is pretty tough, and a small amount of cheese as a garnish on a salad, or small glass of raw milk every few months can be a quick source of extra protein that is not harmful.