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Splitting bills AIBU

255 replies

Morgan14 · 04/02/2018 20:38

My boyfriend wants to live with me and we are talking about how to split bills. I live in a nice house with my 3 DC so he wants to come and live with us in our current property. I currently pay all the rent and all the household bills obviously. He proposes that he moves in and gives me £70 per week towards bills (he works full time and earns considerably more than me) and that he will give me a card to his account that I can draw extra money out if I need it. To me this feels demeaning. I don't want to ask him if I can draw extra money. I'm not sure how it makes me feel but it doesn't feel good. AIBU??

OP posts:
babyccinoo · 05/02/2018 09:52

Fundamental principle of moving in together is that it saves you both money.

Sorry forgot to add that I agree with this by AJPTaylor.

beanii · 05/02/2018 09:56

I would be wondering what he is saving the rest of his money for? Also if that is all he has offered you - does he really love you? He must know that he earns considerably more than you?

HectorlovesKiki · 05/02/2018 10:27

NO YANBU. Is he currently living with his mummy? He sounds immature, disrespectful and not ready for a proper adult relationship. You deserve so much better than this user.

TryAgainAndAgain · 05/02/2018 10:34

Expat
Re 'I don't understand why everyone is ignoring 'the card''

They haven't. Because the OP says she will feel guilty about using it, and others pointed out that he can question her about withdrawing money for it, cut off funding for it, so it's not a sensible option

I still don't see why this is an issue and I don't understand why she would feel guilty drawing out the cash directly rather than being handed the cash. I'd have thought being trusted to take cash directly out of his account without having to go through him is a good thing and a sign that he trusts her.

Surely he can question her about how she spends the money regardless of how she gets the cash. Similarly any concern about him cutting off funding would apply whether he was giving the money directly or whether she was withdrawing it herself.

Like I said earlier I have no idea what he is like. He may be an tight arse but I don't think he is necessarily.

Tanxd · 05/02/2018 10:43

Wow!
Does he expect you to wash cook and clean up after him too?
I can't believe you didn't burst out laughing it's that bad.
Maybe he assumes you're so besotted/desperate that the crumbs he is offering will suffice. How bloody insulting.

Hogtini · 05/02/2018 10:44

The whole 'use the card' thing is a complete cop out on his part. My bet he would be monitoring his account for any withdrawals and then you would be immediately questioned about it - how come you spent £100 at Tesco, why didn't you go to Aldi? etc.

mummmy2017 · 05/02/2018 10:51

Another thought.
In a family... you add all the income of the household..
Take out the Rent, Bills and Food.
Half what ever is left, and you can both spend that on what ever you like.
If he won't agree to this then your have a cocklodger...

RaspberryBeret34 · 05/02/2018 11:04

How long have you been togehter? What has he been like with money so far in general? Paying for days out, holidays, food shopping etc. Is he generous in general (not neccessarily just money)?

My ex was perfectly happy to get me to pay for anything and everything, culminating in me paying for everything for the last 7 years of our relationship. I know look back and see he just wasn't a generous and supportive person. My current bf, we discussed him moving in and the figure he wants to pay will make both of us better off (and is far more than 50/50 of my living costs - I have a DS and he doesn't have DC). I also know he will spend any spare money on things to do together as that's what he already does.

Is there an amount your bf can pay that would make you both better off at a similar level, despite the loss of tax credits etc?

ftmtb · 05/02/2018 11:05

PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT AGREE TO THIS !!! 50/50 or NOTHING

NewBrian · 05/02/2018 11:15

Don’t let him move in to your lovely ready made home for £70 a week! I had someone who thought paying half my internet bill and buying weekday dinners was adequate payment for living at my house Grin

romany4 · 05/02/2018 11:29

I used to pay my mum £200 a month in 1990. And I only earned £360!
And I did all my own washing and cooking.

When I moved in with DH in 1991, he earned double what I did so he paid 2/3 and I paid 1/3 towards all rent and bills.

WashBasketsAreUs · 05/02/2018 12:19

When my DH to be moved in with me many years ago I lost all my tax credits etc. He paid the amount I lost plus he paid for the weekend shopping whilst I paid for the weekly food shop plus any bits in the week. From what I can remember that was about £150-175 per week! And some years ago. It was still cheaper for him than renting his own place. We had a good chat about bills and money etc and how it wouldn't be fair if I ended up worse off if he moved in. Talk to him.

Wallywobbles · 05/02/2018 12:48

Interestingly (to me) my DH said he should pay whatever he pays currently in rent and food into the family pool.

TheEmmaDilemma · 05/02/2018 12:49

IS HE ON FUCKING GLUE?

TheEmmaDilemma · 05/02/2018 12:50

Rent 50% for a start.
Whilst I do think if you have 3 children there should maybe less of a contirbution to food and bills he's still way off the mark.

wellhonestly · 05/02/2018 12:59

I agree with NapQueen.

Lonesurvivor · 05/02/2018 13:02

Don't let him move in, if this is how he's starting off it will only get worse, much worse.

mummmy2017 · 05/02/2018 13:15

@Wallywobbles

Ask your husband if anything happend to you and his new partner was on 30k a year, would he be happy to get £70 a week, from a new partner and watch them spend when he lost Tax credits and housing and had to feed this person out of the money as well?

Mummyoflittledragon · 05/02/2018 13:28

Wallywobbles
Great that a man has spoken and all that. But op will be losing all sorts of additional benefits and income if he moves in. Perhaps your husband could sort that one out as well.

HedwigHen · 05/02/2018 13:40

YANBU - £70 is no where near enough.

As to how much is...need more info. Would be a good idea to get it all down in one place.

Him paying 50% of rent, food and bills isn't that fair either at first glance...but maybe it is when you take into account the loss of tax credits and reduction in council tax.

Ideally you should both be better off financially by him moving in - unless his current living costs are very low.

I would get it down on a spreadsheet/list - current costs (his and yours), costs incurred by him moving in etc (loss of benefits being the obvious one). Do you know what he currently pays for rent, bills and food? That should be a good starting point - why on earth he thinks that he should have all the savings from moving in together is beyond me! It may become obvious that him paying more or less than he currently does is most fair but you definitely shouldn't be paying more or even breaking even!

RockinHippy · 05/02/2018 14:11

Cocklodger right there, tell him to bugger off Hmm

BackToThe90s · 05/02/2018 14:29

This seems to be a modern dilemma that's becoming increasingly more common. It's (mostly) single women with children who suffer because unless they have a very good job/income, they end up claiming Tax Credits to basically survive (like I have to.)

The drawback with this is if she then finds a dp and somewhere down the line they decide they would like live together, she looses her Tax Credits (not saying she should stay get them by the way) and ends up financially worse off and then has to rely on her dp, who isn't the children's father, and it's a lot of pressure for everyone.

That's why I think it's important that if you find a dp, he needs to fully accept that you come as a package with dependent dp and not as a separate entity. If you choose to live together and it means you will loose your Tax Credits then it has to be a 50/50 split on bills. No partner can expect to just rock up in someone's home, make them loose a vast chunk of income then expect not to foot that shortfall. The woman in this situation should NEVER end up worse off.

I would urge any woman in this situation to be fully transparent to her dp about what will happen if they live together with regards to finances. I don't live with my dp yet but he knows when we do live together I will loose my Tax Credits and won't be willing to be worse off.

If you look at it in the long run it's not forever. Kids aren't little forever so if your dp can see past the next few years and help out then you'll know he's a keeper.

If the man thinks it's unfair that he is paying in part for someone else's kids whilst making the mother financially worse off by him being there, he's not a keeper.

Motoko · 05/02/2018 15:17

OP you're not saying much.

Do YOU want him to move in?

How are you feeling now that you know that most of the posters don't think what he's offering is anywhere near enough?

What did you say to him when he suggested it?

Have you discussed allocation of housework?

How long have you been together? Any plans to marry?

Please flesh things out, or all you're going to get are the same things said over and over and people making assumptions.

Morgan14 · 05/02/2018 17:14

Thank you for all the replies. I knew it wasn't right but I wasn't sure how to go about saying that to him. I didn't want to come across as being all about money or for him to think I wanted him to pay for all my DC so I can have an easier life. I would never use his card for that reason and I told him this although he's doesn't seem to appreciate how it makes me feel. Thanks MN for making me realise just how unreasonable he's being.

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RockinHippy · 05/02/2018 19:25

Just tell him you want a partner, not a lodger & that includes your DCs