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Jacob Rees mogg at the University of the West of England (Title edited by MNHQ)

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Grrrrrsnarl · 02/02/2018 23:18

Just watched the clip of Jacob rees mogg at Bristol university, when a few momentum activists try to cause havoc and stop him from talking

Whatever anyone thinks of this man, I have to say he was pretty gutsy going up to them, considering they are all hiding behind Balaclavas and scarves and there wasn't any security there.
Most politicians wouldn't have gone near them, let alone try to talk to them

I like him. Yes his views are controversial and I don't agree with some of them, but at least he stands up for what he believes in

Full video
twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/959529976616947712. ( Sorry only know how to link to a tweet)

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 03/02/2018 08:09

All so depressing. JRM is utterly vile. I agree it is refreshing to find a politician who is prepared to say what they believe even though it's unpopular, but what on earth does that say about the rest of them?

It's come to something when we're all gearing up to express wonder and relief if Corbyn condemns the practice of going to a political meeting in a balaclava to try to shout an opponent down. The Labour Party leadership I felt comfortable voting for (Callaghan, Foot, Kinnock, yes, even Blair and Brown) would have had a statement out in nanoseconds condemning this.

And meanwhile back in Parliament most MPs are too craven to say what they really think about the biggest political crisis of my lifetime, viz Brexit, and about the utter farce that is the Gender Recognition Act. If truth drugs were put in the House of Commons tea, I suspect most of them would finally admit that they don't believe a man who still has a penis but now wears a dress is really a woman. But you won't catch many of them saying that out loud otherwise.

Headofthehive55 · 03/02/2018 08:10

I think battering people whilst wearing balaclavas is a worse crime than anything JRM has said.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 03/02/2018 08:11

I respect Corbyn for standing up for what he believes in, and I respect him even more for being the enemy of the right-wing press. Much as I hate to say it I think Corbyn is as odious as Rees Mogg... and I am not sure I have found a character trait in him I can admire... the self aggrandising lies are one thing (all politicians use them), making them so bloody obvious and getting caught out is quite another!

I actually don't think we have many proper politicians any more. You know, the ones who got into politics because they had a passion for a cause. These days they all went to Uni, did a PPE style degree and became a Sab, so they could extend their Uni career, make contacts and become a politician. It has become wholly a career and has lost all of the 'calling' many politicians used to have.

Then again, I may have my rose tinted glasses glued to my face! But the Blairs and Camerons etc are just 2 sides of the same coin. Most politicians these days are utterly interchangeable!

makeourfuture · 03/02/2018 08:11

He even has a picture of a pie with 'Corbz' baked into the crust on his fb

Well yes that is damning evidence.

LifeBeginsAtGin · 03/02/2018 08:13

Make I have already corrected you on another thread. JRM stated the community spirit of donating to, and volunteering at food banks was 'uplifting', not the fact people use them.

Why do you ignore this?

makeourfuture · 03/02/2018 08:14

Just out of curiosity, would anyone have objected if someone shouted at Oswald Mosley?

ragged · 03/02/2018 08:17

JMR is on the radio right now.
He wants to screw over British farmers & manufacturers by making sure that we are flooded with cheap goods from everywhere else in the world.
Am not a fan.

ghostyslovesheets · 03/02/2018 08:17

Oh dear - look Conservative Central Office OP trying to make RM some kind of macho super hero wont work - because we all know he's a bigoted ass hat

'momentum activists' my bum - nice try though Grin

EveningShadows · 03/02/2018 08:18

It took 4 pages before Hitler was mentioned?! I’m disappointed Grin

The man is an odious twat and I can’t bear this “at least he’s honest” defence of his vile views. Of course it doesn’t justify what happened at UWE but it’s deeply disturbing that so many on here think JRM is ok. Being “strong” is not an exclusive prerequisite for PM and the thought of this man as leader is terrifying.

bridgetoc · 03/02/2018 08:19

Without a doubt a future P.M....... A class act is Jacob. If only all politicians were as honest with their views as him....

As for the Momentum types....... It's what the left has become I'm afraid. They don't like free speech and are very fascist in their ways. Labour really need to get their house in order or they will be out of power for years to come.

ghostyslovesheets · 03/02/2018 08:20

still if he stands like this for his future speeches he's sure to be PM by Christmas

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Squeegle · 03/02/2018 08:21

bridgetoc don’t be so silly Wink

EveningShadows · 03/02/2018 08:21

Bridge, you’re joking yes? Please tell me you’re joking? Shock

Eltonjohnssyrup · 03/02/2018 08:23

Violently attacking meetings of your political opponents is a tactic of the Nazis. Attacking businesses because you don't like their politics and decorations is similar. If Momentum and the rest of the far left get anywhere near power we will be in real danger of turning into a totalitarian state. They're not even particularly trying to hide this and are hoping people are too daft to remember history and see what they're up to.

Efferlunt · 03/02/2018 08:23

*I like him because everyone complains that Theresa may is weak and he clearly isn't•

What? You like him based on what other people say about someone else? TM has a thankless, dangerous and stupid task that she can’t possibly achieve. JRM just gets to undermine from the sidelines. I can’t see how that makes them comparable.

makeourfuture · 03/02/2018 08:25

Other examples?

Jacob Rees mogg at the University of the West of England (Title edited by MNHQ)
LizzieSiddal · 03/02/2018 08:25

JRM is an odious man, as is Corbyn.

And OP it wasn’t Bristol University where this happened. Please get your facts right.

Eltonjohnssyrup · 03/02/2018 08:25

Oh, and some of the things being said on here simply aren't true. He never said Stephen Lawrence's mother should go back to her 'natural homeland'.

LizzieSiddal · 03/02/2018 08:27

*I like him because everyone complains that Theresa may is weak and he clearly isn't•

Yes and Hitler, Stalin and every other dictator weren't weak either. Such a good reason to like someone Hmm

Eltonjohnssyrup · 03/02/2018 08:27

Just out of curiosity, would anyone have objected if someone shouted at Oswald Mosley?

Oswald Moseley sent his blackshirts into political meetings to break them up violently in just the way Momentum did last night. And I believe they should be treated in exactly the same way - arrested and charged.

Feelitstill · 03/02/2018 08:27

if Momentum and the rest of the far left get anywhere near power we will be in real danger of turning into a totalitarian state. They're not even particularly trying to hide this and are hoping people are too daft to remember history and see what they're up to

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This.

TheWizardofWas · 03/02/2018 08:29

Not this

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FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 03/02/2018 08:29

Just out of curiosity, would anyone have objected if someone shouted at Oswald Mosley?

Shouted at?
No.

Part of a group behaving aggressively whilst wearing balaclavas & then turning violent?
Yes.

Headofthehive55 · 03/02/2018 08:30

The left don't allow free speech. Thus push thoughts underground, hidden as they shut down debate. It makes it much harder to challenge views, discuss ideas - allow people to explore their own arguments.

It's the absolute opposite of what good teaching is : allowing expression of ideas openly without judgement. If people are too frightened to express their ideas in the classroom children do not change their Ideas.

Squeegle · 03/02/2018 08:30

Hoping that there is as much change of momentum getting into power as Britain first.
Both are extremist dangerous groups. I’m no fan of JRM but disrupting, violent behaviour does no good - it only gives him positive attention.