Jacob Rees mogg at the University of the West of England (Title edited by MNHQ)

[Grrrrrsnarl]

Just watched the clip of Jacob rees mogg at Bristol university, when a few momentum activists try to cause havoc and stop him from talking

Whatever anyone thinks of this man, I have to say he was pretty gutsy going up to them, considering they are all hiding behind Balaclavas and scarves and there wasn't any security there.
Most politicians wouldn't have gone near them, let alone try to talk to them

I like him. Yes his views are controversial and I don't agree with some of them, but at least he stands up for what he believes in

Full video
twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/959529976616947712. ( Sorry only know how to link to a tweet)

One of the activists have been outed, he is a labour / momentum supporter

JRMs views are not my own

He believes the teachings of the Catholic church which state that if a child is "conceived in pregnancy caused by rape, then this child is just as innocent and precious as the woman who was victimized and he or she should not be killed because of the actions of the rapist. The Church teaches that through mercy and love, a non-violent solution for both mother and child is far superior to helping a victim of violence (the raped woman) commit violence against her own child through abortion."

This is direct quote from the Catholic church

I do not hold that view
But many Catholics do
As do other religions

It wasn't Bristol university, it was the university of the west of England

Seriously, this man just gets better every day. Momentum is an organization of cunts. Well done JRM. And before the Momentum mob or their supporters here gives me a 'talking to' and educating about JRM in the most patronising manner, all I have to say is: I don't listen to cunts

Women on twitter who was there says a Mogg supporter started the scuffle and then punched her.
Actually I wouldn't be suprised if the whole thing was staged for publicity.

My dh thinks he's a dangerous man. I'm inclined to agree.
If he got to power it's might be the thing that pushes me to go.

Momentum/Antifa are an absolute embarrassment and behave like violent facists.

JRM is perfectly allowed to have his Christian views. And I am perfectly allowed to disagree with them. And most importantly, women's reproductive rights will continue to be protected in this country.

People have to be able to handle other people people thinking different things from them. It's a beautiful thing.

I don't like momentum either.

And I agree we can handle people thinking different things as long as those different things are not imposed.
I'm an ex Catholic partly because of their views regarding women and their bodies.

One of the activists have been outed, he is a labour / momentum supporter

Oh come on breitbart, this is totally unsubstantiated.

We will know a lot more about this as the investigation continues.

Can you just turn the alt-right down a bit untill we get some actual information?

I don't like the views of Jacob Rees-Mogg and hope he loses his seat at the next general election.

I think that last night's behaviour was totally unacceptable- protest hiding behind balaclavas has no place at such an event.

So far JRM has been precisely what he appears to be... a rather well educated scion of a wealthy and powerful house. He is politically honest, which is hugely rare these days.

I agree with almost noting he says, politically (the no woman has a penis is the exception) but I respect him for holding to his unpopular beliefs in the face of such determined opposition. He has not watered them down or stopped saying what he believes in the face of such opposition.

Yes, there are lots who will support him, some will wholeheartedly agree with his stance on abortion etc, it isn't illegal, it is the stance of a world religion. But others will vote for him because he is a rare animal... a politician who stands for what he believes rather than the 'glory' of politics.

So, despicable and outdated as I believe many of his views to be, I have a sneaking admiration for an apparent milksop with the balls to stand up for what he believes in the face of such violent opposition. After all, he is only doing what we would all we would do in such situations... staying true to himself and facing down bullies!

Now, where can we find an equally honest politician [by which I don't men an honest human being, they are 2 completely different things] who believes in the same things I do?

I wouldn't worry. The SJW/Antifa mob are morons. Their rabid brand of intolerance only backfires upon them. Look at how it has turned their 'bete noir', the conservative academic Dr Jordan Peterson, into an incredibly influential (and now tremendously wealthy) public figure who has people flocking to his sold-out talks, and who can count his YouTube views in the hundreds of millions. Their histrionic behaviour merely causes the sane to flock to their opponents viewpoint. Its absolutely wonderful, and long may it continue.

I thought this must've been a publicity set-up... probably been watching too much Scandal!

I dislike RM. He is an articulate bigot who for some strange reason attracts a following.

But like other articulate bigots- including Zionists, Islamist extremists, etc he should not be denied a platform in a democracy unless he crosses the line between bigotry and illegality.

The behaviour of the protestors - like that of other “no platformers” - is unacceptable. If they are indeed Momentum members they should be expelled from the Labour Party.

Trying to shout down any MP like that, even one as repellent as JRM, is awful behaviour. Also it will backfire in a way that shouting down and no-platforming feminists doesn’t, because he’s a bloke so people will give more of a shit. Stupid all round.

I am a Catholic and I strongly disagree with JRM on a lot of things. He isn’t “just following Church teaching” - he goes directly against Catholic social teaching with a lot of his voting record. If he keeps up angling for leadership I don’t want him shouted down, but I’d really like to see him interviewed by someone who goes beyond the “wacky old-fashioned eccentric, but you can’t blame him for his religion” angle and hammers him on his voting record vs. Catholic teachings on solidarity and the preferential option for the poor.

So not IWannaBeaPeer Piers Morgen then, 53rdWay

I think foodbanks are a signal that society in not functioning well. They are terribly inefficient for starters.

Mogg thinks mass hunger is a sign of success.

but I’d really like to see him interviewed by someone who goes beyond the “wacky old-fashioned eccentric, but you can’t blame him for his religion” angle and hammers him on his voting record vs. Catholic teachings on solidarity and the preferential option for the poor.

Could we arrange for you to interview him 53Rd way?

I don’t think there is anything admirable about being true to beliefs that potentially would limit choice in a group of people. Lots of horrible people are open about their views, doesn’t make them admirable. Just dicks. Rees Mogg is a caricature.

Given that there has been a number of threats against MPs and in light of the jo cox murder the fact this happened is concerning. I enjoy debate where views are discussed and challenged. Shutting people down just leads to people like Trump getting power (another one admired for being open about his awful views).

I always think of this cartoon about Trump when people spout the ‘at least he’s honest’ line...

If your views are misogynist etc being honest about them doesn’t make you a good, worthwhile person.

Misogynistic I mean...

I don’t think there is anything admirable about being true to beliefs that potentially would limit choice in a group of people I was separating the man from the politician... the traits are admirable, even of the use to which they are put are not... as I said in my first post!

That and, as I said, whilst his beliefs are abhorrent to me they are legal, widely held and will endear him to many. That needs to be openly challenged, not battered by people in balaclavas! As you say, that just encourages all sorts of weird knee jerk reactions.

If your views are misogynist etc being honest about them doesn’t make you a good, worthwhile person. To borrow that... but that doesn't mean that honesty becomes a bad thing.

Which might make more sense of my previous posts!

*when a few momentum activists

There is no indication that this is true. An investigation will take place.*

The guy who stayed to shout some more & got caught in the 'scuffle' is apparently a momentum activist & avid Corbyn supporter (according to his fb page).

He even has a picture of a pie with 'Corbz' baked into the crust on his fb 🙄

I'm annoyed because they have now made the odious little bastard look good which has obviously backfired on them. Stupid people like OP will now be even more inclined to call for an archaic, misogynistic self important, under qualified twat to be PM - oh! He stands up for himself AND he's been on a panel show behaving a bit like Bertie Wooster . Forget lowering the age to vote, we should talk about raising IQ thresholds to vote!

I see the ToryBots have infiltrated Mumsnet.
This man is a highly odious individual.
Consistently voted against anything to further safeguard workers rights.
Consistently voted against legalising gay marriage.
Voted Leave.
How can you even begin to think that “because he stands by what says what he believes he’s ok”? You could say the same of Hitler. Or indeed, of Trump.
I respect Corbyn for standing up for what he believes in, and I respect him even more for being the enemy of the right-wing press.