To vote Tory in the next election?

[LadyBoyXy]

I've lost all hope of any rationality coming out of JC and Labour.

I feel like my biological existence is being wiped out.

I already feel completely bereft that the future of the female/girls/women will likely continue to be ruled and overruled by the patriarchy.

Well exactly just

Ive no idea

As far as i can see he was all gung ho for brexit and its all completely his fault (or not depending on whether you thought it was a good idea)

As far as i can see he was all gung ho for brexit and its all completely his fault (or not depending on whether you thought it was a good idea)

Ah, ok, he is not to blame for Brexit, but the vote would have come about eventually. He is being the true career politician about it though, trying to appease to the widest possible labour voter base.

His record and comments after the referendum speak for themselves, he is pro leaving the eu, but he says just enough that remainers think he will keep us in.

You (and generally the other die hard momentum supporters) seem to think its somehow morally superior to vote along your alliance and use emotive arguments about the poor, yet ignore the fact that during the last GE, the manifesto which JC had his hand in was not going to reverse any of the benefit caps/cuts already put into place.

The Labour manifesto didn't say it would scrap all benefit cuts, true, but pledged to scrap some of the most punitive measures brought in.

They said they would reinstate the £30 weekly cut for ESA wrag voted in last year by Tories

Said they would get rid of the punitive benefit sanctions

Scrap bedroom tax

Scrap cuts to bereavement payment supports

Scrap the cuts to work allowances under UC

Scrap and replace the work capability assessments that has caused such misery as not fit for purpose and not contract the assessments out to private firms that have made millions. Government have made no savings with all the disability benefit cuts as paying these firms a fortune. Yes, I know wca came in in 2008 under new labour but the coalition stream rolled ahead with it despite warnings it was not fit for purpose.

Whilst that is true @blankets4ever that is not the momentum soundbites, they do not highlight that UC would still be implemented, nor do they highlight a replacement to workplace assessment would be implemented, the only difference would be is what side of the media would be highlighting the sanctions/assessments.

Also, this is where people like make get into mental gymnastics as the IFS (right leaning and him using the studies for his pro EU stance) denounced both manifestos and concluded that looking at the 2 main issues of public sector pay and benefit caps/reinstations would give an almost identical outcome until you got into the higher net income percentile.

Who knew politics was take with one hand whilst give with another.

I would like to have a system where having a job would mean you don't need top ups from the state. That means government would need to seriously address wages, inflation, housing, taxation etc. Tories aren't doing any of that. What they're doing is removing the benefits / top ups but not addressing any of the other issues. So people have even less money.