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The one in which Trump orders his staff to fire Mueller, and they give him the finger

986 replies

PerkingFaintly · 26/01/2018 12:14

Apparently this has already happened, back in July 2017. Shock

But the orange one try again...

Trump Ordered Mueller Fired, but Backed Off When White House Counsel Threatened to Quit
www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/us/politics/trump-mueller-special-counsel-russia.html

Coverage by Maddow: twitter.com/maddow?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3142761-All-Trump-sees-is-green-All-we-see-is-a-traitorous-orange-menace-Who-is-right-Place-bets-now-Trump-continued?pg=1

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 12:38

Natasha Bertrand
@NatashaBertrand
Mark Warner: "End-of-the-year document dumps” to Congress produced “very significant” revelations that “opened a lot of new questions” about Trump and Russia. Source tells me one of those document dumps came from Michael Flynn.

www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/29/mark-warner-global-politico-216545

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 12:53

Trump May Have Wanted Him Gone, But Top Republicans Back Mueller
They also expressed concerns about political bias within the Justice Department.

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/top-republicans-back-mueller_us_5a6df7bbe4b01fbbefb2b072?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 12:54

Natasha Bertrand
@NatashaBertrand
Missed this when it came out last week: Grassley and Graham sent a letter to Donna Brazile asking whether she or anyone at the DNC knew about, or reviewed any portion of, the Steele dossier before it was published. www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-01-25%20CEG%20LG%20to%20Brazile%20(Steele%20Dossier).pdf

cozietoesie · 29/01/2018 16:06

Strewth. Has she - or (hopefully) the DNC's legal team - commented?

HesaidIwasflighty · 29/01/2018 16:09

Just catching up on the thread and finding out in real time how true the saying "a week is a long time in politics" can be!

Re all the stories about Trump's lack of acquaintance with telling the truth: might his aides/handlers be lining him up for a 25th Amendment departure? It would be slightly better than having him impeached on corruption/obstruction of justice charges. . .

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 16:30

Ooh speaking of recaps, Amy siskind weekly update:

theweeklylist.org/weekly-list/week-63/

TheNorthWestPawsage · 29/01/2018 16:33

A little bit of Randy Rainbow to start this new week of WTF...

ALL ABOUT HIS BASE - Randy Rainbow Song Parody youtu.be/_4q8x5fR4Sw via @YouTube

SanFranBear · 29/01/2018 17:15

This may have been posted (sorry few pages behind) but even if it has.. woeth another watch Grin

Gorgeous Randy Rainbow and All About His Base

www.facebook.com/randy.rainbow.14/posts/10155580741587672

AcrossthePond55 · 29/01/2018 17:34

Love Randy!!!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 17:44

Dafna Linzer
@DafnaLinzer
BREAKING: Andy McCabe just quit as deputy FBI director, per @petewilliamsnbc he will remain on "leave" till Spring when he can officially retire from the bureau.

Matthew Miller
@matthewamiller
This may very well be McCabe’s own decision, but given Trump’s demands for his ouster and his ongoing pressure on DOJ/FBI, Wray ought to explain to Congress what has happened as soon as possible.

lionheart · 29/01/2018 18:04

Thanks for the recap Pain.

Let us hope.

'The Koch Brothers Think the Midterm Elections Will Be Brutal.'

time.com/5122723/koch-brothers-2018-elections-spending/?utm_campaign=time&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=time_socialflow_twitter

lionheart · 29/01/2018 18:12

Oh.

'The deputy director for the FBI is stepping down from his position with the agency, a week after it was reported that President Donald Trump was lobbying for his ouster.'

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/andrew-mccabe-trump-deputy-fbi-director-resigns-steps-down-row-oval-office-a8184126.html

SanFranBear · 29/01/2018 18:19

Haha Northwest - just caught up and can see I cross posted with you Grin

I'm signed up to protest in October if he does decide to come.. will need to book leave but try and keep me away!!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 18:32

Steve Brusk‏Verified account
@stevebruskCNN
From our Justice team One source said FBI Deputy Director McCabe's departure was not in the plans as of Friday. The source said McCabe was told this morning to step down. A second source described McCabe’s departure as being “removed”.

And

Melissa McEwan
@Shakestweetz
Soon there will be no one left who even makes the illusion of an effort to hold Trump accountable.

Andrew McCabe was already on his way out. What purpose does ousting him now serve except to flex their muscle as a threat to anyone who dares be disloyal?

GingerIvy · 29/01/2018 18:33

Newsweek

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Russian military jet comes within five feet of U.S. plane during "unsafe" intercept on Black Sea, report says bit.ly/2GtDM3Y

GingerIvy · 29/01/2018 18:34

Andrew C Laufer, Esq

@lauferlaw
3m3 minutes ago
This is good for Mueller. There's potentially more Obstruction of Justice charges against Trump and the administration for this. More legal pain for #TeamTreason
Trump did this because he's scared. Eye on the prize folks. We're almost there. twitter.com/MSNBC/status/958029721488515073

GingerIvy · 29/01/2018 18:37

Scott Dworkin

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Republican Hill staffer just told me Trump is thrilled about the removal of FBI Deputy Director McCabe. Said Trump & senior staff think it will allow him to fire Rod Rosenstein & Robert Mueller, then end the Russia probe. Only reaffirms the fact Congress needs to #ProtectMueller.

lionheart · 29/01/2018 18:38

What a fool.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 18:38

I'm not sure I can be that optimistic ginger

Trump Tower Russian Lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, Exposed in Swiss Corruption Case

Natalia Veselnitskaya, who organized the notorious Trump Tower meeting, has been named in an explosive Swiss court case about bribery, corruption, and double-agents.

www.thedailybeast.com/trump-tower-russian-lawyer-natalia-veselnitskaya-exposed-in-swiss-corruption-case?source=twitter&via=desktop

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 18:39

This was written before McCabe was removed

Greg Sargent‏Verified account
@ThePlumLineGS
"We are two tweets away from an extraordinary constitutional crisis. We are at a very dangerous moment in American political life."

I interviewed a historian of Watergate and the FBI about our current moment.

It's very alarming stuff. My new post:

www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/01/29/is-trump-a-greater-threat-than-nixon-heres-the-big-danger-ahead/?utm_term=.6a6cf536ff72

GingerIvy · 29/01/2018 18:46

Renato Mariotti

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FBI Deputy Director McCabe was forced out by the White House, which suggests that Trump is serious about forcing out Rosenstein in order to undermine, limit, or end the Mueller investigation. That should alarm all of us. twitter.com/TomFitton/status/958044670566727680

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 18:46

Renato Mariotti
@renato_mariotti
FBI Deputy Director McCabe was forced out by the White House, which suggests that Trump is serious about forcing out Rosenstein in order to undermine, limit, or end the Mueller investigation. That should alarm all of us.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 18:47

‘What the hell is going on?’ Senior FBI officials stunned and furious over abrupt McCabe departure

www.rawstory.com/2018/01/hell-going-senior-fbi-officials-stunned-furious-abrupt-mccabe-departure-cnn/#.Wm9sG33YKQ8.twitter

Lweji · 29/01/2018 18:48

Trump May Have Wanted Him Gone, But Top Republicans Back Mueller

Hopefully, they know that if they let him go too far, he may well go for them if they oppose him.

GingerIvy · 29/01/2018 18:52

Kurt Eichenwald

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'What the hell is going on?' Senior FBI officials stunned and furious over abrupt McCabe departure -- CNN www.rawstory.com/2018/01/hell-going-senior-fbi-officials-stunned-furious-abrupt-mccabe-departure-cnn/#.Wm9sG33YKQ8.twitter