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The one in which Trump orders his staff to fire Mueller, and they give him the finger

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PerkingFaintly · 26/01/2018 12:14

Apparently this has already happened, back in July 2017. Shock

But the orange one try again...

Trump Ordered Mueller Fired, but Backed Off When White House Counsel Threatened to Quit
www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/us/politics/trump-mueller-special-counsel-russia.html

Coverage by Maddow: twitter.com/maddow?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

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GingerIvy · 29/01/2018 18:52

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WATCH LIVE: White House holds press briefing amid reports McCabe will step down as FBI deputy director hill.cm/To0x9WE

GingerIvy · 29/01/2018 18:56

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More... Source telling us FBI Director Wray told McCabe he was bringing on a new team and that he was not part of it. Writing was on the all. All points to McCabe essentially being pushed out. twitter.com/acosta/status/958040149610426368

GingerIvy · 29/01/2018 18:57

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Associate Deputy Director of the FBI David Bowdich has been appointed to Acting Deputy Director of the FBI, replacing former Deputy Director Andrew McCabe.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 29/01/2018 19:05

Trump just can't bear anyone with any link to Hillary - that's why McCabe has gone now. And the WH is lying through their rotten teeth yet again. Ugh!

TheNorthWestPawsage · 29/01/2018 19:09

Sorry - it's rotten teeth (I'm so cross my grammar is shot

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 19:14

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Sanders: “only thing the president applied pressure to is to get it resolved so you guys and everyone else can focus on the things Americans actually care about- making sure everybody gets the Russia fever out of their system once and for all.”

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How Trump shifts the window of acceptability: These q’s to Sanders about the WH position on the release of the Nunes memo glide over the fact the WH shouldn’t be involved at all. It’s about an investigation into POTUS’s campaign!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 19:18

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Rep. Eric Swalwell: “If [McCabe] is leaving for any reason other than personal, this is going to be a problem because we know the president’s desire to remove people who he perceives to stand in the way of him being cleared in the Russia investigation.”

www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitchell-reports/watch/swalwell-afraid-what-mccabe-departure-means-for-other-officials-1148533315591

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 19:23

Asha Rangappa
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Folks, remember that Deep Throat, the man who exposed Nixon's coverup in Watergate, was the retired #2 person at the FBI.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 19:35

Speculative:

Dutch tax office, banks hit by DDoS cyber attacks

www.reuters.com/article/us-netherlands-cyber/dutch-tax-office-banks-hit-by-ddos-cyber-attacks-idUSKBN1FI1LM

Molly McKew
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a few days after story that Dutch intel watch Russian intel/hackers target US elex, critical Dutch financial infrastructure targeted by DDOS attacks.
Hmm I wonder who is doing that?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 19:37

Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen becomes latest GOP chairman to retire

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(CNN)New Jersey Republican Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen, the chairman of the powerful House Appropriations Committee, announced Monday he will not seek re-election in 2018.

Frelinghuysen's announcement comes as about three dozen other Republican members and a host of other House chairmen have announced their retirements or plans to run for other offices outside of Congress amid speculation that the 2018 midterms could be a wave election for Democrats.

"Today as I announce my retirement at the end of this session of Congress, I want to use the opportunity to strongly encourage the many young people I meet to consider public service," Frelinghuysen said in his statement.

The New Jersey congressman faced a tough re-election bid in 2018 and Republicans had long been worried that Frelinghuysen would retire. But as recently as last week, GOP aides had become more optimistic that he would seek re-election, saying they'd grown less troubled by his fundraising and his staff had become more engaged ahead of a tough re-election battle.

Democrats are running a prized recruit in the Northern New Jersey district in Mikie Sherrill, a former Naval helicopter pilot and federal prosecutor.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 19:42

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Recently spotted heading into the HPSCI SCIF: @RepAdamSchiff, @NancyPelosi, who has since left, and, most recently, @DevinNunes, who didn’t say a word.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 19:55

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NEW: House intel cmte & the FBI have been in last-minute talks to give the bureau more visibility into the Nunes surveillance memo ahead of this afternoon's potential vote to release it:

www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-scrambling-to-get-more-info-on-explosive-nunes-memo-ahead-of-vote-to-release-it

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 19:58

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The Narrative being pushed by Russian Bots as well as those on the right is that Andrew McCabe was forced out after Christopher Wray read "The Memo".

Note that there is absolutely NOTHING at all to point to claim, and the fact that RUSSIAN BOTS are behind this says it all.

GingerIvy · 29/01/2018 20:40

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Top Intel Dem: Senate Just Got ‘Document Dump’ Revealing ‘Very Significant’ New Info About Trump and Russia - latest.com/2018/01/top-intel-dem-senate-just-got-document-dump-revealing-very-significant-new-info-about-trump-and-russia/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 20:42

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Rep. Mike Conaway, the Republican running the Russia probe, just told me the House Intelligence Committee will “probably” vote tonight to release the Nunes memo. He said there’s been a meeting and a conference call with Nunes and DOJ over the matter

GingerIvy · 29/01/2018 20:43

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As a Member of the House Judiciary Committee, I read the partisan, classified Nunes House Intel memo. I can't talk about it. However, here's an analogy.

Remember Geraldo Rivera and the infamous Mystery of Al Capone's Vaults? It's like that, but Geraldo Rivera has more integrity.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 20:44

Natasha Bertrand
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Per Bloomberg, John Kelly has been calling DOJ officials to "lecture them on the White House’s expectations...He has taken to ending such conversations with a disclaimer that the White House isn’t expecting officials to do anything illegal or unethical.": www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-29/on-flight-to-davos-trump-erupted-over-doj-role-in-russia-probe?utm_content=politics&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-politics

GingerIvy · 29/01/2018 20:44

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Buried in this piece: Trump met w Sessions & Wray last week to discuss the "missing" FBI texts. We know Trump thinks he has "absolute" authority over DOJ, but Sessions & Wray should face Qs about why they agreed to offer this briefing. www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-29/on-flight-to-davos-trump-erupted-over-doj-role-in-russia-probe ….

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 29/01/2018 20:44

Caroline O.
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Don't get so distracted by the (forced) departure of FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe that you lose sight of the fact that today is the deadline to implement the latest round of Russian sanctions... and Trump has still not acted on that.

GingerIvy · 29/01/2018 20:48

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Per Bloomberg, John Kelly has been calling DOJ officials to "lecture them on the White House’s expectations...He has taken to ending such conversations with a disclaimer that the White House isn’t expecting officials to do anything illegal or unethical." www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-29/on-flight-to-davos-trump-erupted-over-doj-role-in-russia-probe?utm_content=politics&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-politics … pic.twitter.com/RKvacKISYQ
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Kelly is dangerously close to interfering with an investigation into the president here. These conversations are usually channeled thru the WH counsel. Interesting McGahn isn't involved.

GingerIvy · 29/01/2018 20:48

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The Nunes memo is about DOJ's investigation into POTUS and his campaign. The WH shouldn't be talking to DOJ at all about it, let alone pressuring them to do something DOJ thinks might harm the investigation. Why is this so hard to understand?

GingerIvy · 29/01/2018 20:49

interesting point here....

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Remember when GOP criticized Hillary for not leaving Bill back in 90s?
Wonder what they think Melania should do...

GingerIvy · 29/01/2018 20:51

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The Republican war on women continues with yet another bill to ban abortion after 20 weeks interc.pt/2DLx8s6 by @chronic_jordan

GingerIvy · 29/01/2018 20:52

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Attacks on women’s health care rights continue today in the Senate. This comes days after @POTUS said doctors can refuse to provide treatment to women, and months after he cut access to contraceptives. I’m voting NO. #NoAbortionBan pic.twitter.com/kEkYs6OqYN

GingerIvy · 29/01/2018 20:53

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Former federal prosecutor: If memo is released, I will call for criminal investigation of Nunes on.msnbc.com/2nhxUCY

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