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The one in which Trump orders his staff to fire Mueller, and they give him the finger

986 replies

PerkingFaintly · 26/01/2018 12:14

Apparently this has already happened, back in July 2017. Shock

But the orange one try again...

Trump Ordered Mueller Fired, but Backed Off When White House Counsel Threatened to Quit
www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/us/politics/trump-mueller-special-counsel-russia.html

Coverage by Maddow: twitter.com/maddow?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3142761-All-Trump-sees-is-green-All-we-see-is-a-traitorous-orange-menace-Who-is-right-Place-bets-now-Trump-continued?pg=1

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PerkingFaintly · 26/01/2018 12:16

Ahem.

The orange one may try again.

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PerkingFaintly · 26/01/2018 12:18

Melissa McEwan
@Shakestweetz
I'm probably not the first person to observe that the likely reason we're getting this leak now about Trump trying to fire Mueller in June is because Trump is thinking about it again and someone's trying to stop him.

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HesaidIwasflighty · 26/01/2018 12:42

Perking, either that or he's trying to distract the American electorate from the omnishambles of his performance at Davos Grin

Not that he'll see it as anything other than the greatest appeareance by any US President ever, bigly. I reckon he's only there because Obama didn't go (but neither did GW Bush).

blueskyinmarch · 26/01/2018 13:08

Thanks for the new thread. These threads are the only place i can keep up with what is going on. It all twists and turns at breakneck speed!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 26/01/2018 13:10

Thanks for the new thread!

Ryan Goodman
@rgoodlaw
Interesting tidbit on @Morning_Joe:

Mueller’s team was informed about Trump attempt to fire Mueller in trove of documents released to special counsel by White House waiving executive privilege, says @nytmike who broke the original story

cozietoesie · 26/01/2018 13:12

To Across. (A CNN Money piece.)

Trump hasn't killed the renewable energy movement

lettuceWrap · 26/01/2018 13:17

Thanks for the new thread. I’m watching Trumps Davos speech. Not sure if it’s my TV sound quality... is he slurring some words? Maybe I’m just over listening Hmm

blueskyinmarch · 26/01/2018 13:18

I bet his speech writers are cacking themselves in case he goes off script!

lettuceWrap · 26/01/2018 13:18

I’m waiting for him to go off piste Grin

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 26/01/2018 13:22

Fox are in a delicious bind (or would be if they had any sense of discomfort) , being in the position to disparage the NY Times reporting of Trump asking Mueller to be fired whilst at the same time their own reporters have confirmed the story. It kicked off with Hannity last night but it's still playing out in a similar way this morning.

cozietoesie · 26/01/2018 13:23

*blue
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No. I think that's been dealt with.

blueskyinmarch · 26/01/2018 13:27

What do you mean Cozie?

lettuceWrap · 26/01/2018 13:32

He’s moved on to fake news, how unfair etc Shock

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 26/01/2018 13:36

Jack Maidment
‏*@jrmaidment*
Donald Trump says it was only when he became a politician that he realised how "nasty, mean, vicious and how fake the press can be".

Jim Acosta
‏*@Acosta*
Trump says he benefited from friendly media as a businessman but when he became president he realized “how fake a press can be.” (Boos and hisses in crowd)

Tony Connelly
‏*@tconnellyRTE*
Trump ends speech. No applause during it, but applause now.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 26/01/2018 13:37

IS RUSSIA HELPING NORTH KOREA? MOSCOW HITS BACK AT REPORTS IT VIOLATES U.N. SANCTIONS

www.newsweek.com/russia-helping-north-korea-moscow-weighs-reports-it-violating-un-sanctions-791673

AcrossthePond55 · 26/01/2018 13:42

Oh, is place marking wrong? I'll apologize for place marking on the new thread if you ask me to.

Thanks for the new thread Perking

And the link cozie

PerkingFaintly · 26/01/2018 13:53

That's a mistressful non-apology-apology, Across! You must have been taking lessons...Grin

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 26/01/2018 13:55

Placing a big, fat, nasty, mean, vicious and fake bookmark.

cozietoesie · 26/01/2018 14:51

blue

It was an ........uncharacteristically low key delivery. Consistently so.

Maybe he was just cognisant of the importance of the occasion, though.

AcrossthePond55 · 26/01/2018 14:57

Oh yes Perking! And apparently I have a very good teacher!

You know, when you look at his various 'non apologies' and 'non retractions' they are very much in the format that a small child would use to satisfy a parent whilst still not admitting wrong or actually apologizing to whomever they should be saying 'sorry' to.

And it's not a bit surprising.

Lweji · 26/01/2018 15:00

Placemarking to keep my head above the thread water.

Also, any bets on who's having an affair with Trump?
Wasn't there a leak a while ago that someone was?

Nikki? Too far and too old (she's well past 30)
Sarah? Noooo. Too fat for him.
Patriot Barbie? Too old for him.

My bet is Hope Hicks (although I can't explain why she would).

www.businessinsider.com/hope-hicks-bio-trump-spokeswoman-2017-2

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 26/01/2018 15:51

GOP scrambles as disgraced rep retires from yet another competitive district

shareblue.com/gop-scrambles-as-disgraced-rep-pat-meehan-retires-from-yet-another-competitive-district/

Rep. Pat Meehan (R-PA) just became the latest Republican to bow out, leaving the GOP scrambling to keep control of his moderate suburban district, which voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Meehan’s political career imploded this week when it was revealed that he used taxpayer dollars to settle a sexual harassment claim made by a former, much younger aide who claimed Meehan had pursued her romantically and then turned on her when she entered a relationship with another man.

The RNC refused to abandon Meehan even as he compounded his woes by claiming the staffer had been his “soulmate,” and that if he was rude to her, it was only because he was so stressed from trying to repeal Obamacare.

And

Trump’s favorite PA Senate candidate busted for cozying up to Holocaust deniers

shareblue.com/donald-trump-rep-lou-barletta-holocaust-deniers/

Pennsylvania Rep. Lou Barletta, who Trump has boasted is going to “win big” against Democratic Sen. Bob Casey, has associated with extremists who deny the Holocaust on at least two occasions.

And

www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2018/01/25/democratic-group-will-spend-5-million-to-elect-secretaries-of-state-the-latest-front-in-voting-wars/?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.bd2e13755183

Democratic group will spend $5 million to elect secretaries of state, the latest front in ‘voting wars’

But also (I think this was discussed on the last thread)

Matt McDermott
@mattmfm
An increasingly disturbing trend in American politics: Republicans literally refusing to hold elections because they're afraid Democrats might win them.

www.thenation.com/article/scott-walker-is-literally-preventing-wisconsinites-from-voting/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 26/01/2018 15:57

[These are all from yesterday or today]

ACLU @ACLU
BREAKING: Judge rules that @ICEgov cannot summarily deport a group of 92 Cambodians. Many of our clients came to the U.S. in the 1970s as small children to escape the brutal Khmer Rouge regime. All of them have due process rights under the Constitution.

And

ACLU‏Verified account
@ACLU
Today the White House released a hateful proposal that would slash legal immigration to levels not seen since the racial quotas of the 1920s, eliminate legal channels for African immigrants, and spend $25BIL for a wasteful border wall + increase in Border Patrol and ICE agents.

Stephen Miller has said that his proposal is ‘extremely generous,’ but the only community that benefits from this supposed generosity are white supremacists.

The White House proposal is clearly an effort to sabotage bipartisan talks on the issue by continuing to put issues on the table that are non-starters.

The crisis facing Dreamers and their families is urgent, but addressing it must not come at the expense of using immigrant youth as bargaining chips or devastating border communities. This proposal should be deemed dead on arrival.

And

Ben Wikler‏Verified account
@benwikler
Funny how well the misdirection is working. Most punditry re Trump’s ethno-nationalist immigration plan focuses on wall-for-Dreamers tradeoff. But the chainsaw to legal immigration is the rotten core of it. There’s a pattern here. 1/
The GOP’s assault on health care was, centrally, a dismantling of Medicaid. But GOP succeeded in selling it as “ACA repeal,” bc that’s what they’d talked about for years.

Until @NationalADAPT rolled in, few knew about the sneak attack on Medicaid—which was wildly unpopular.

The #TrumpTaxScam was, centrally, a massive, indefensible, and utterly loathed (by the public) giveaway to corporations. But the GOP sold it as “tax reform” & a middle class tax cut. Didn’t even try to argue for the central provision; just changed the subject.

Now, Trump/Kelly/Miller/Cotton want to slam the door on people of color immigrating legally to the United States, even though doing so would be a massive blow to the economy, Social Security and Medicare—hurting people of all races. But they don’t want to talk about it.

Don’t let them even start to get away with this. Don’t let them hide their hatred. Now and until this ugly idea is relegated back to the fringe of American life, turn a blazing spotlight on it and call it out. It’s to me to stand tall with the Statue of Liberty and fight.

And

IMMIGRANT CELEBRATED FOR REBUILDING HOMES AFTER HURRICANE SANDY FACES DEPORTATION BY ICE

www.newsweek.com/undocumented-immigrant-celebrated-helping-rebuild-after-hurricane-sandy-pleads-791708?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

And

ICE to gain access to database that tracks license plates

thehill.com/homenews/administration/370855-ice-to-gain-access-to-database-for-tracking-license-plates

boatyardblues · 26/01/2018 17:05

Frequent flyer with new identity reporting for duty.