The one in which Trump orders his staff to fire Mueller, and they give him the finger

[PerkingFaintly]

Apparently this has already happened, back in July 2017.

But the orange one try again...

Trump Ordered Mueller Fired, but Backed Off When White House Counsel Threatened to Quit
www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/us/politics/trump-mueller-special-counsel-russia.html

Coverage by Maddow: twitter.com/maddow?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

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According to unnamed "Senior Republicans" in today's Times, Trump shouldn't talk to Mueller because despite being innocent of collusion, he always lies and can't help himself. Oh, and Mueller is a big nasty bully, determined to get him for something, no matter what-

Lawyers for Donald Trump are confident he was not involved in any collusion with Russia but fear his presidency is in danger because he is “incapable of telling the truth”. Trump’s private legal team is working overtime to persuade him that he should not agree to be interviewed by Robert Mueller, the special counsel whose investigation began with allegations of collusion but has spread into almost every aspect of his presidency.
“They believe it would be legal and political suicide,” said a senior Republican with close ties to the White House. “Mueller wants to get his scalp and the clearest path to that is catching President Trump in a lie, perhaps on a peripheral matter.”
The senior Republican said: “The problem is that Trump’s lawyers believe that he is incapable of telling the truth. It’s not that he knowingly lies but that he occupies an alternate reality. What he says and believes is often different from the demonstrable facts of what happened. He creates his own truth.”

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/donald-trumps-lawyers-fear-perjury-more-than-collusion-qhv0tsrcx

He creates his own truth that’s what I’d call big whopping lies.

His alternate reality should be a reason for impeachment on its own.

The problem is that Trump’s lawyers believe that he is incapable of telling the truth. It’s not that he knowingly lies but that he occupies an alternate reality. What he says and believes is often different from the demonstrable facts of what happened. He creates his own truth

Are these qualities we wish to see in a POTUS? How frightening the GOP are willing to protect and promote such a person.

Claiming that he's a bonkers fantasist does seem an unusual defence argument.

The senior Republican said: “The problem is that Trump’s lawyers believe that he is incapable of telling the truth. It’s not that he knowingly lies but that he occupies an alternate reality.

I'm a big fan of In The Thick Of It and Veep (Armando Iannucci) - this could be a storyline from either of those satires. (Oh! How we laughed...)

Michael Wolff was on Lawrence o Donnell on Friday and essentially seemed to be suggesting that he didn’t really mean he wanted mueller fired because it said it all day every day so was probably the product of a broken mind. Well he was more subtle than that but it seemed to be the gist of what he was saying

Has 'congenital liar' ever been used as a successful defence I wonder?

Are his lawyers basically pleading insanity like that is perfectly OK in a president? WTF. Just when you think your mind can't be blown any further.

This was predictable.

shareblue.com/lobbying-increases-to-7-year-high-as-trump-invites-obscene-levels-of-dc-corruption/#.Wmxl8hYSwMg.twitter

he occupies an alternate reality. What he says and believes is often different from the demonstrable facts of what happened. He creates his own truth.

It would explain a lot, but it doesn't explain how, if he's not competent to give evidence, he can continue to be president, CinC and have the nuclear codes.

I'm sure the Ryan and co will explain though. 🤔

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Democrats are not interested in Border Safety & Security or in the funding and rebuilding of our Military. They are only interested in Obstruction!

I feel like I have stepped into an alternative reality today.

One where we are told the president of the USA should not be challenged because he can't stop lieing and where I find myself arguing with feminists over whether it's OK to say how nice an article by Breitbart is.

I think I need a lie down in a dark room. Maybe if I go back to bed I will wake up and everything will be back to only pretty darn crazy.

Have we had this on here yet? I am filing it alongside such articles as Popes confirms he is Catholic and Caught on camera: bear defecates in woods

Trump: 'I wouldn't say I'm a feminist'
thehill.com/homenews/administration/371070-trump-im-not-a-feminist

Apparently Melania is fine about the whole Stormy thing. So that's OK then.

Melania Trump's Aide Slams 'Fake News' Amid Rumored Icy Reaction To Stormy Daniels Report
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/melania-trump-fake-news-statement_us_5a6d086fe4b01fbbefb25ac9

I know, I'm all about the hard hitting news stories today

I've just been watching the Jimmy Kimmel sketch with the pretend Melania making a break for it across the tarmac.

Monday deadline for Russian sanctions.

www.politico.com/story/2018/01/28/trump-russia-sanctions-deadline-373106

DH and I are (supposedly) having a no-Trump Sunday. But just like sticking your tongue to a sore tooth or picking at a scab I just can't seem to resist checking this thread. DH has told me I must bear it in silence, though.

Democrats are not interested in Border Safety & Security or in the funding and rebuilding of our Military. They are only interested in Obstruction!

If by Obstruction he means obstructing wasting money on a useless wall and obstructing regulations that specifically keep muslims away and obstructing laws that prevent women from having access to contraception and abortions, then, I certainly hope they are.

Apparently Melania is fine about the whole Stormy thing.

I'm sure they have some sort of arrangement.

Has Colbert interviewed Melania about this yet?

I don't think so, Lweji. Sorry.

Although, he did mention, as part of his monologue, that Melania wasn't going to Davos because "She was afraid (the weather) was going to be too Stormy.”

Those were the days. Of W.

Enjoy!

Yes. He's given to mentioning weather conditions a lot these days.

Is that PM interview coming on soon?

I don't think I can watch it.