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The one in which Trump orders his staff to fire Mueller, and they give him the finger

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PerkingFaintly · 26/01/2018 12:14

Apparently this has already happened, back in July 2017. Shock

But the orange one try again...

Trump Ordered Mueller Fired, but Backed Off When White House Counsel Threatened to Quit
www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/us/politics/trump-mueller-special-counsel-russia.html

Coverage by Maddow: twitter.com/maddow?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

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GingerIvy · 27/01/2018 10:26

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See you in court, #Trump Administration! They admitted to the Court yesterday they haven't complied with our #FOIA for all emails on the public response to #Yemen and #Niger operations in which troops died. We’ll see what the Judge has to say about that. bit.ly/2DOcZ3J

GingerIvy · 27/01/2018 10:27

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Maxine Waters is giving a national address on BET after Trump's State of the Union, BuzzFeed News reports. www.buzzfeed.com/darrensands/maxine-waters-is-giving-a-national-address-on-bet-after?utm_term=.hr7gQmQXZ#.wkVWbJbZk

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/01/2018 10:29

annadale the nytimes has published a piece yesterday about how HRC shielded a staffer from sexual harassment consequences (he wasn’t fired but had to take unpaid leave for some time I think).

But at the same time, Wynn’s alleged sexual assaults will be problematic for the GOP/RNC after how they excoriated the dems for Harvey Weinstein and demanded they return any money donated. Wynn’s influence/money runs deep in the RNC and predictably they’re silent on the matter.

GingerIvy · 27/01/2018 11:06

Dr Lauren Gavaghan #NHSLove

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“Theresa May suggests UK health services could be part of US trade deal”

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-donald-trump-nhs-us-trade-deal-brexit-torture-a7548156.html

#WhyBritsDontWantTrump

GingerIvy · 27/01/2018 11:09

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Billy Graham's granddaughter: "In order to forgive somebody, that individual needs to repent and apologize. And I don't think America has seen that from our President in any scenario" cnn.it/2GlpsKQ

GingerIvy · 27/01/2018 11:32

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Obama aide: "We would have been impeached" for spending $24M to upgrade Air Force One fridge hill.cm/jWDV2nW

lionheart · 27/01/2018 11:44

Derpy is a word I haven't heard for a long time, Claws. Smile

www.reuters.com/article/us-sunpower-tariff/sunpower-puts-u-s-expansion-on-hold-over-trump-tariff-idUSKBN1FF00X

GingerIvy · 27/01/2018 12:20

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Key detail buried in all the new reporting on Trump trying to fire Mueller.

It's very likely Trump's lawyer told him firing Mueller would make him more vulnerable to obstruction charges.

Yet Trump reportedly continues to mull doing it anyway:

wapo.st/2FkWVnj

GingerIvy · 27/01/2018 12:45

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That book Trump was holding up in Davos? It says God made him president --> politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/27/millions-of-americans-believe-god-made-trump-president-216537

GingerIvy · 27/01/2018 12:51

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Apparently @realDonaldTrump also wants to fire Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein (who by the way is a Republican appointed twice by GOP Presidents).

This again screams CONSCIOUSNESS OF GUILT. twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/957094085877227520

TheNorthWestPawsage · 27/01/2018 12:53

“Theresa May suggests UK health services could be part of US trade deal”

Over my dead body! (probably literally in the end... Sad) That's assuming she means we take US healthcare rather than other way round.

PerkingFaintly · 27/01/2018 13:12

From GingerIvy's article about the book claiming God made Trump president:

There will be no point at which Trump’s most loyal evangelical and charismatic supporters declare they have had enough. Because to do so would be to admit that they were wrong, that God wasn’t behind Trump’s election, and that their Holy Spirit radar might be on the fritz. That it was, after all, about something as temporal and banal as hating his Democratic rival.

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GingerIvy · 27/01/2018 13:23

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Before Trump’s election, Kuwait had held its National Day celebrations repeatedly at the Four Seasons hotel in Georgetown—and asked the Four Seasons to reserve a day for the event to return in 2017. Then, after Trump won, it switched to his DC hotel. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/kuwaiti-embassy-returns-to-trump-hotel-in-dc-for-its-national-celebration/2018/01/26/1355f9c0-02cd-11e8-8acf-ad2991367d9d_story.html?utm_term=.c9304720ada9

GingerIvy · 27/01/2018 13:24

NorthWest My understanding is that they want to privatise it to the point where UK people need to buy medical insurance to access affordable medical care.

GingerIvy · 27/01/2018 13:29

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All bets are off about how soon the quality of our air will degrade enough to affect our ability to breathe. Industry wins. The planet loses. Get your masks. @FridayFeeling www.wsj.com/articles/epa-withdraws-air-pollution-policy-1516935178

GingerIvy · 27/01/2018 13:31

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In light of the assault on Mueller and the FBI, this by @erictfelten is very much worth reading: "But if the strategy is to throw up a firewall against impeachment and removal," the model is "the successful defense of O.J. Simpson." tws.io/2EdvOv2

GingerIvy · 27/01/2018 13:32

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/01/2018 13:36

As maddow said d, there are lots of well sourced pieces at the moment painting McGahn to be a hero. And mueller has approved him to have the same lawyer as priebus and bannon

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For McGahn, the White House counsel who resisted Trump on firing Mueller, the stress can be enough that he sometimes will cancel his afternoon meetings and leave the White House

<a class="break-all" href="https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/26/us/politics/trump-white-house-counsel-mcgahn.html?referer=t.co/EWR8YOW6Nw?amp=1#click=t.co/EWR8YOW6Nw" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/26/us/politics/trump-white-house-counsel-mcgahn.html?referer=t.co/EWR8YOW6Nw?amp=1#click=t.co/EWR8YOW6Nw

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/01/2018 13:39

Russia's elite are scrambling to be omitted from a US Treasury report, which could blow the lid off their assets abroad

www.businessinsider.com/russias-elite-is-scrambling-to-be-omitted-from-a-us-treasury-report-2018-1?IR=T

boatyardblues · 27/01/2018 13:51

Theresa May suggests UK health services could be part of US trade deal”

That might actually kill off Brexit. The UK population are not on board with privatising healthcare.

boatyardblues · 27/01/2018 13:53

Incidentally, I wish we had an effective opposition that was brave enough to start the conversation about how we safeguard our heath service for future generations & what that might mean for the future delivery of services. Note: privatising it is not the answer!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/01/2018 13:59

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“Wholly owned subsidiaries” are a pointless VAT fiddle that hurt staff & have no place in our #NHS. Jeremy Hunt & @NHSEngland should stop them now.

Southmead Hospital considering creating its own private company to employ staff

www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/southmead-hospital-considering-creating-private-1107679.amp?__twitter_impression=true

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 27/01/2018 14:03

boatyard I have a relative who works as a business consultant for the nhs, helping them to restructure to save money, be more efficient etc and he is utterly convinced that privatisation is the way forward. It makes me so sad that he won’t acknowledge that years of underfunding have wreaked devastating havoc on the nhs and there’s principles at stake here too and he, being very generously paid to do his job, assumes he knows best and won’t be told otherwise (which given he has worked in the field for years, is hard to argue against!)

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