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The one in which Trump orders his staff to fire Mueller, and they give him the finger

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PerkingFaintly · 26/01/2018 12:14

Apparently this has already happened, back in July 2017. Shock

But the orange one try again...

Trump Ordered Mueller Fired, but Backed Off When White House Counsel Threatened to Quit
www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/us/politics/trump-mueller-special-counsel-russia.html

Coverage by Maddow: twitter.com/maddow?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 30/01/2018 18:37

Not able to keep up in real time at the moment so many thanks for the posts.
Napoleon may not be the best person to quote at the moment...but "Courage mes braves!"

cozietoesie · 30/01/2018 18:52

Remember. 45 is a man who lost the popular vote. Smile

thebewilderness · 30/01/2018 19:03

You have to go back to the McCarthy era to find congresscritters this corrupt. Selling advertising on the Trump channel as the SOTU is streamed is about as emolument as it gets innit?

Fekko · 30/01/2018 19:09

Oh oh and who was as Trumps lawyer back inthe day???

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/01/2018 19:30

The 'state' of Donald Trump? He thinks it couldn't be better.

www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2018-state-of-the-union-address/amp/state-donald-trump-he-thinks-it-couldn-t-be-better-n842501?__twitter_impression=true

But Trump — who trusts no one, or at least no one for long — has now decided that he must have an alternative strategy that does not involve having Justice Department officials fire Mueller.

"I think he's been convinced that firing Mueller would not only create a firestorm, it would play right into Mueller's hands," said another friend, "because it would give Mueller the moral high ground."

Instead, as is now becoming plain, the Trump strategy is to discredit the investigation and the FBI without officially removing the leadership. Trump is even talking to friends about the possibility of asking Attorney General Jeff Sessions to consider prosecuting Mueller and his team.

"Here's how it would work: 'We're sorry, Mr. Mueller, you won't be able to run the federal grand jury today because he has to go testify to another federal grand jury,'" said one Trump adviser.

cozietoesie · 30/01/2018 19:33

He used the word 'prescient'?? Smile

lionheart · 30/01/2018 19:34

www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/01/if-you-want-to-understand-trump-understand-this-revenge-is-what-he-cares-about-most/

The comparisons with Watergate are fasinating, I think but yes, this is a different level.

lionheart · 30/01/2018 19:37

That projection strategy seems to be spreading.

www.rawstory.com/2018/01/petty-classless-virginia-gop-follows-trump-lead-mocking-andrew-mccabes-wife/

lionheart · 30/01/2018 19:45

'You want it darker,' to quote Mr. L. Cohen. Sad

It just keeps coming, doesn't it?

www.axios.com/paul-gosar-illegal-immigrants-arrest-state-of-the-union-22f423a1-7b36-4d5e-b745-8fd82189ae0e.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/01/2018 19:51

GOP congressman calls for arrest of undocumented SOTU attendees

www.axios.com/paul-gosar-illegal-immigrants-arrest-state-of-the-union-22f423a1-7b36-4d5e-b745-8fd82189ae0e.html

And

Willa Frej
@willafrej
Amer Othman, local Ohio business owner, was deported last night even though the House had voted to keep him here another 6 months

ICE Deports Palestinian Man Living In The U.S. For Almost 40 Years Despite Outcry

The agency defied a request from the House Judiciary Commitee to review his case.
<a class="break-all" href="https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a70259de4b05836a255fe36/amp?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004#click=t.co/QolR6w2Hl7" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a70259de4b05836a255fe36/amp?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004#click=t.co/QolR6w2Hl7

And

FEMA To End Food And Water Aid For Puerto Rico

www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/01/29/581511023/fema-to-end-food-and-water-aid-for-puerto-rico

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/01/2018 19:53

I think trump and co want it the opposite of darker. Blindingly white is probably what they’re aiming for Sad

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/01/2018 19:54

Missed this one

Federal judge blasts ICE for 'cruel' tactics, frees immigrant rights activist Ravi Ragbir

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/01/29/federal-judge-blasts-ice-for-cruel-tactics-frees-immigrant-rights-activist-ravi-ragbir/#click=t.co/X0N8hUgvno" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/01/29/federal-judge-blasts-ice-for-cruel-tactics-frees-immigrant-rights-activist-ravi-ragbir/#click=t.co/X0N8hUgvno

Gumpendorf · 30/01/2018 20:13

Pain. Just prolonging the Watergate debate, you posted the reference to the Schiff segment on Maddow that contained the Nixon clip. I knew I had seen something today! 😊

thebewilderness · 30/01/2018 20:26

Criminals were marked with green inverted triangles, political prisoners with red, "asocials" (including Roma, nonconformists, vagrants, and other groups) with black or—in the case of Roma in some camps—brown triangles. Homosexuals were identified with pink triangles and Jehovah's Witnesses with purple ones. Non-German prisoners were identified by the first letter of the German name for their home country, which was sewn onto their badge. The two triangles forming the Jewish star badge would both be yellow unless the Jewish prisoner was included in one of the other prisoner categories. A Jewish political prisoner, for example, would be identified with a yellow triangle beneath a red triangle.
www.ushmm .org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005378

Natsku · 30/01/2018 20:54

It's just awful how politicians in not only the US, but in other countries, are starting to take the 'Monkey see, Monkey do' route when they see what the Scrotus Gang is doing

It's terrible (and cringeworthy). A woman that stood for the presidential election here seemed to take trump as one of her role models, spouting things like "Finland first" and had trademark hats for her supporters. Of course she didn't win but she did worryingly well.

lionheart · 30/01/2018 20:57

Isn't it strange Pain? They want to return to something that never existed.

cozietoesie · 30/01/2018 21:21

Has Kennedy given any clues how he'll frame the 'Response'?

lionheart · 30/01/2018 21:25

Have not seen anything about Kennedy yet.

thinkprogress.org/trump-stephen-miller-immigration-policy-e3806adff8a3/

lionheart · 30/01/2018 21:27

Only this:

Rep. Joe Kennedy III

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@RepJoeKennedy
Jan 26
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From health care to economic justice to civil rights, the Democratic agenda stands in powerful contrast to President Trump’s broken promises to American families. Deeply honored to be chosen to deliver the response to the State of the Union next week. Stay tuned for updates!

lionheart · 30/01/2018 21:34

I did not know this. A second memo.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/30/trump-russia-collusion-fbi-cody-shearer-memo

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