To Not Understand How There Can Be a Men-Only Event

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The charity event with captans of industry and celebs etc, with the harrassment allegations.... news.trust.org/item/20180124100129-in2a3/

How can this happen? Imagine if there was a Whites-only event, or an Able-Bodied-only event, there would be outrage.

Why is it OK to have men-only social events?

FFS, sorry for the slew of typos.

Isn't the Round Table similar but without the groping? I've always understood it to be an organisation for men to network with each other and wondered how they get away with it in terms of the Equality Act.

It's depressing really that women still have to present themselves as decorative and passive and that qualifies as 'work'.
A men only event should include the table hosts.

Why are you focussing this on the women and not asking about the men there? Because in the part of that post that you are ignoring I said that the actions of the men were utterly unpardonable, no question. I am waiting for a list of names to appear....

I am just appalled that in the 21st century women in the UK still find themselves in the position of having to accept work like this. I wondered why... don't accept it is just for money... and am pissed off that we are still socialising our daughters to believe that such shit is anything they have to participate in... at all!

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Really? No gender should be dribbled over? You've never seen someone attractive and thought about what you'd like to do to them? Some people want to be fawned over too...

YABU

I have no problem with events for men. The Dad’s at my children’s school organise a curry evening. Should they be banned from doing this?

Just because this particular men’s event involved men engaged in unacceptable behaviour doesn’t mean ALL men’s event are like this. It’s a bit like saying that some pubs allow parties with strippers so we need to close ALL pubs.

And the trans thing is a different topic entirely.... I don’t see how it follows at all that because a few men want to identify as women and join their clubs, it follows that men shouldn’t be able to get together...

I was reading about this elsewhere and saw some comments from women who had worked at the event in previous years.
They seemed to be saying that they had liked the work, that the harassment experienced was no worse than when working at other events involving large amounts of alcohol (which sounds plausible, actually). They were well paid, and some hostesses also met 'future partners' at the event.

I think for at least some of the women, working at an event like this is regarded as an ideal way to meet wealthy men and potentially secure a partner. I'm not judging, but I think it's disingenuous not to acknowledge that this happens.

Yes but dosent any one think men that want join in should be alowed. I think by creating a safe zone for woman only, we are making a huge problem and supporting the abuse. By doing this we are going backwards we need to punish the ones doing the bullying. Just a thought...........

Step 1- use an example of male only event to generalize to all male only events

Step 2- assume women are flawless

Counter example From a semi naked butler's testimonial:

"When working in an event with 300 women I was soon surrounded by all the rowdy ones. It went from banter, to cheeky messing around to borderline sexual abuse pretty quickly. I managed to fight my way through them whilst smiling and seeming cool with it, but it was a strange feeling.

Never really felt exploited before that in that way."

@Paulady

Step 1- use an example of male only event to generalize to all male only events

Step 2- assume women are flawless

Counter example From a semi naked butler's testimonial:

"When working in an event with 300 women I was soon surrounded by all the rowdy ones. It went from banter, to cheeky messing around to borderline sexual abuse pretty quickly. I managed to fight my way through them whilst smiling and seeming cool with it, but it was a strange feeling.

Never really felt exploited before that in that way."

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Errrr there are shit loads of women only events! Why can't men have some too?

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