To Not Understand How There Can Be a Men-Only Event

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The charity event with captans of industry and celebs etc, with the harrassment allegations.... news.trust.org/item/20180124100129-in2a3/

How can this happen? Imagine if there was a Whites-only event, or an Able-Bodied-only event, there would be outrage.

Why is it OK to have men-only social events?

*Women-only events or spaces are usually conceived with the aim of empowering women, giving them space to speak, or allowing them to feel safe.

This is not that. This is a space for holding onto power, groping women, bidding for plastic surgery for your wife.

Absolute false equivalence.*

This is the point.

When I worked in the hotel industry we did far more women only events than men only events. And some were outrageous!

Yabu plenty of women’s only events

huck see these are the things I don’t get, so a man wants to indentify as a woman and the demands “they” be taken more seriously than a woman? Why? Why would “they” think they have that right?

I couldn’t care less if someone wants to indentify as man, woman, or even barney bear. But no one (man or woman) can demand they’re more important and they certainly don’t have the right to be hostile.

You can probably tell I live under a rock and plead ignorance at how people think of themselves, so apologies if I sound a bit dim-witted.

Urgh bidding for plastic surgery

E1y1
It's called male privilege
They all their lives have been taken more seriously than women, and just presume that this will continue ( thats said very flippantly - and there is way more to it)
I have PM'ed you :-)

YABU. Why can't men have their own clubs and men only events?

Have those of you bleating that there are 'plenty of women only events' actually read the article??

I worked as a cocktail waitress/hostess when I was a student more than 20 years ago and was subjected to the sort of harassment described. How depressing that it is still going on - and that our captains of industry are attending events masquerading as 'charity' functions but in fact designed to degrade women.

There's nothing wrong with men only events so long as they are held in accordance with the exceptions within the Equality Act. For example, the Men's Sheds Association is really valuable in providing mental health support to men who otherwise wouldn't access it.

This event appears to have been invite only so I don't know how you'd be able to prevent only inviting men, but I'm definitely glad that they're getting backlash for their disgusting behaviour at the event and hopefully there'll be consequences for them.

Women-only events or spaces are usually conceived with the aim of empowering women, giving them space to speak, or allowing them to feel safe.

indeed. The problem is that I don't see why this particular event is men only. I can see the point to some men only event, and it's quite easy to conceive of legitimate ones (male health problems meeting, or perhaps predominantly male marital problems meeting, just off the top of my head). But this seems to be a business event.

Goldenbug

Yes - exactly

Men only events are fine. Women only events are fine.

Women being assaulted at events is not fine.

It's not that hard a line to distinguish, yet we seem to cross it at every opportunity.

Our local gym has Ladies Only classes. My local pool has a ladies hour. I’ve heard of ladies lunches (charity events) I think you’re getting het up about something that’s nothing.

An event attended by senior politicians, businessmen, with access to lunch with the foreign secretary and head of the bank for England as prizes which is exclusively MEN BUILDING NETWORKS WITH OTHER POWERFUL MEN which excludes all women except young, thin and pretty women in skimpy clothes who are expected to sign legal agreements not to reveal what goes on it VERY different issue from a women's Pilates group in your village hall.

Anyone who tries to compare the two is an idiot.

Sorry wrong thread

But there are actually very few women only events.
Yes the WI is one of them but as far as I know it’s not closed to men. Men just dint go there.
It’s te same with yoga or Pilates. Sometimes you have a man coming and thedior is never close to them. It’s just that, again, men are choosing not to go.

The only women only events I can think about are about swimming and the likes. And the reason for that to happen is to protect women. The same way that we have separated changing rooms and toilets.
I dint see the men only event set up to protect men from women. They ar there to protect the men position of influence by stoping women to enter those circles. Totally different and nit acceptable.

I can't see the issue with a men only event.
The whole hostesses thing is grubby though.

Getting upset over something that's nothing? Wtf?

Women being intimidated, being groped, having their phones impounded, having loo visits timed, being forced to sign a contract they were neither allowed to read or keep a copy of? Something that's nothing - wtf would "something" be?

The people who are posting "there are women only events" obviously haven't read the link. This was a male only event where they employed female hostesses to wear black skimpy dresses with matching knickers, who were presented to "braying" men according to the undercover journalist and told to get drunk, take off their knickers, dance on tables, and men getting their penises out. This was run by a charity for "underprivileged children" which has been going for 30 or so years set up by a property developer and someone who deals in luxury goods. Dear god.

We had a thread recently which was pulled which had a photo of a topless waitress photo taken from behind showing suspenders and tights and knickers only - ie totally bare back - serving young men food.

It is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING and should be against the law. As should photos of women in sexual poses on newspaper stands in full view of children.

This is not about male or female only events per se.

This is not about male or female only events per se

Yeah, except the OP's AIBU question was explicitly about that.

Saying that, this event sounds disgusting for all the reasons you've stated.

I can understand perfectly well how there can be "Men only events" as per your AIBU.

I'm all for them and women only events.

I'm very much against events where the staff (or anyone) gets sexually assaulted/harassed.

HTH

There are no women only events or spaces any more, activists target them for harassment as they are transphobic.
The WI is one of them, its no longer women only.

there are female only events, female only gyms, ext let the men have something

To my mind, to be on the same page as women's only gym classes etc, "men's only event" = no women in the room at all. That's fine. This event is a creepy "women may only be present to serve us" thing which is soooo wrong.