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To wonder why this song is still ok to play on the radio

463 replies

CoedynSbageti · 14/01/2018 12:57

Jealous Guy

Written and performed by a man who admitted he was violent towards women.

Just that really.

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FuzzyCustard · 14/01/2018 13:17

There's lots of stuff on the radio that probably shouldn't be there ...I give you "My Sharona"...."I always get it up for the touch of the younger kind".

Mycarsmellsoflavender · 14/01/2018 13:37

John Lennon? Was he?

condepetie · 14/01/2018 13:41

@lavender It's very well known that John Lennon was violent to woman, particularly his first wife Cynthia. A lot of Beatles songs are uncomfortable listening - "Run For Your Life", for example

broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/ypa9b5/you-dont-have-to-imagine-john-lennon-beat-women-and-childrenits-just-a-fact

RunningOutOfCharge · 14/01/2018 13:43

I expect there's plenty of musicians who have been violent to people and committed other crimes too

Do we need to remove everyone's music then? Or just those who have committed crimes towards women?

insancerre · 14/01/2018 13:45

What an odd question
It's a song
It's not a confession
Or a statement to a court

CoedynSbageti · 14/01/2018 13:50

I agree that lots of musicians will have committed crimes. That wasn't my point. It is that the song seems to be excusing domestic violence because it wasn't his fault, he was just jealous, poor guy, AND was written and performed by a man who admitted being violent to women.

It's the combination iyswim.

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Iliketeabagging · 14/01/2018 13:52

Let's all be offended. Such fun!
I wish to complain about the words in xxxxx song because of yyyyy. I am so upset, and my life is ruined.

Figrollsnotfatrolls · 14/01/2018 13:52

What about all the songs sung by people who take drugs/have a criminal record?

brizzledrizzle · 14/01/2018 13:54

I can see the point in them not being played on the radio, I wouldn't want scum like the former lead singer of the Lost Prophets to get a penny. It's tough on the other band members assuming that, as they said, they genuinely knew nothing but I doubt they would be making a living as musicians and would have moved on to other jobs by now anyway.

SadKitty86 · 14/01/2018 13:55

I just choose to turn over or avoid listening if the artist creeps me out.

One of my favourite bands as a teenager is now a now go zone, after if came out that the lead singer was a pedo and was planning to rape a baby.

SadKitty86 · 14/01/2018 13:56

Ah snap brizzledrizzle

feral · 14/01/2018 13:56

What about Delilah?

Murdered by a man.

They use this song as an example of hot violence is normalised by music on the Freedom Programme.

I think you need to relax. You know where the off switch is.

Lethaldrizzle · 14/01/2018 13:57

I'm pretty sure Ghandi and Mandela are not snow white in that department either! I'm not going to stop listening to it.

CoedynSbageti · 14/01/2018 13:59

Can't remember writing that I'm offended or that my life is ruined. Seems like some people want to argue so much that they completely miss the point.

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CoedynSbageti · 14/01/2018 14:01

My fault, I should have been clearer in my op and my second post has been overlooked.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 14/01/2018 14:01

Funny... why not include the explicitly nasty more recent songs.

My favourite/most hated twattish song is Candy by Paolo Nuttini. But nobody ever seems to believe me! It is explicitly about stalking and refusing to leave without a last hug and fuck... and even then he'll be hanging around.

There are lots of them. Songs have always been like that, like poetry, they explore the human condition.

They can't all be Kumbaya!

Bluedoglead · 14/01/2018 14:02

Every breath you take

CuriousaboutSamphire · 14/01/2018 14:03

That was one of the previous holders of my "Creepy Fucker" award Bluedoglead Smile

Seniorcitizen1 · 14/01/2018 14:04

Brilliant song sung by a genius and working class hero. If you dont like hit the mute or off button.

partydownseason2 · 14/01/2018 14:04

The song was written about when Lennon first met Yoko Ono and he made her write a list of every person she’d slept with which is pretty dark stuff!! However the Roxy Music version is one of my favourite songs ever. Sometimes a good song trumps the hideous subject matter.

FannyWisdom · 14/01/2018 14:05

Sting has a bit of a theme, Roxanne?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 14/01/2018 14:06

Coedyn I do get it, it is the combination of Creepy Fucker writing and performing a Creepy Fucker song.

But I think that some of the very best pieces of music have very dark sides... classical music is full of it, folk music is ALL about misogyny if you listen closely enough (I say that as an ex folk singer too!) - many of the writers would have been as disagreeable as their music!

Xmaspuddingdisaster · 14/01/2018 14:06

Some stars when they fall from grave people don’t want to hear their songs/see their movies anymore. (Anyone listened to Gary Glitter for a while?) Others seem to skate over it somehow. I didn’t even know that about Lennon he has a saintlike peace loving image doesn’t he?

Tinycitrus · 14/01/2018 14:08

I dont think you should expect censorship on the grounds of morality if someone is not being harmed in the act of making art/songs etc

Why should you get to decide what I am allowed to listen to? And what are you trying to protect me from? Liking John Lennon? I think I’m perfectly capable of deciding whether I want to listen to his songs or not. And I am perfectly capable of deciding how I feel about his personal life - I don’t need someone to decide for me.

Xmaspuddingdisaster · 14/01/2018 14:08

Fall from grace not grave. Hard to fall from a grave.