To wonder why this song is still ok to play on the radio

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Jealous Guy

Written and performed by a man who admitted he was violent towards women.

Just that really.

The lyrics for Greased Lightning anybody? ...

I imagine most write music for cathartic reasons so may not be particularly bragging about said scenario they have written about. There are lots of subjects out there that we are uncomfortable with but I don't feel poetry/music/art or film should step away due to people not liking the subject. Look at the holocaust it's made millions for film directors it's not even remotely a nice subject and I'm sure there are many people in the world that would rather not be reminded but still most will find it important that we don't forget and continue to be reminded via any means not to let the same thing happen again.

I personally don't like the way loads of music genres objectify women in their videos but I just don't watch them problem solved. I also accept as much as I don't like it there are women in their hordes lining up and auditioning to do it so I just have to suck it up, just cause it bothers me clearly it doesn't bother everyone.

Most people don't know all the words to songs, let alone analyse or understand them.
Then there's the factor of not wanting art just to be about 'nice things'. I like reading thrillers about serial killers. Lots of people enjoy horror films. A song is no different from other art forms. It's up to the individual to decide where to draw the line.

Jealous Guy's lyrics don't tell a very nice story, but surely you could find a worse John Lennon song than that, let alone something out of modern rap or whatever.

I mean he says 'I'm sorry that I hurt you.' You don't have to accept his apology, so to speak. You can say 'this is a charming manipulative bloke and this is how they justify themselves' without endorsing the underlying behaviour.

But you’re saying that a song should be banned from the radio so you must be offended at least a little bit.

The question is whether you can separate the art from the artist. Some people can and some people can’t.

So you should do what’s right for you. I struggle to listen to Led Zeppelin after hearing about Jimmy Page and Lori Maddox.

John Lennon was knob, and I think on some level he knew it as this isn’t the only song that alludes to his behaviour.

Who should get to decide what's banned and what isn't?

Why do you think adults need protecting through censorship?

How the fuck did we feel such a need to virtue-signal over evermore insignificant issues.

I agree. In fact, I think we should veto all classical music, radio, cinema, ballet, sports, theatre, literature and also close down museums. That would be the right thing to do.

Imagine if all of a musician's songs were banned as soon as they were convicted of a violent act...

I am ALL FOR that

I drove all night to get to you
Is that all right?
I drove all night, crept in your room
Woke you from your sleep to make love to you
Is that all right?
I drove all night

Okay if sung by a woman, practically rape when it is a male

A fantastic deterrent

Isn't greased lightening just about a guy who thinks his car is going to get him laid 🙄. I doubt that there are many women out there that drop their knickers cause the bloke has a nice car. This is mostly wishful thinking by men.....right?

I must admit I do not censor songs or films etc when it turns out the person who created them has committed a crime. But I admit I cannot stand to hear Gary Glitter. Mostly because of personal taste in music though rather than anything else.

They play Eminem on the radio fgs...

This is like the bullshit about how Johnny Depp shouldn't have been cast in Fantastic Beasts.

Having said that, I respect those who do boycott songs, films etc created by bad people. I also think I probably would not want to go to an exhibition of Hitler's paintings. Too much personal family suffering innvolved with that awful man, am afraid. His art can perish with him as far as I'm concerned!

Mustang (love the irony of your username for this comment )

I think it's that one line, too crude for school.. You are supreme, the chicks'll cream for greased lightning

Bloody hell - I've never heard the lyrics to Run For Your Life Before.

What about all the songs sung by people who take drugs/have a criminal record?

I don't think that's the point. It's about specific songs that talk about violence towards women.

Songs have always been like that, like poetry, they explore the human condition

I'm not sure. I"m going to mull this over for a while, but my initial feeling it isn't outrageous to suggest that we should look again at giving air play to songs that normalise violence towards women.

Let's all be offended. Such fun!

Listening to Pick of the Pops only last weekend.
'Show Me You're A Woman' by Mud. Ewwwww

cdtaylornats - that was Cindi Lauper who wrote that one. I’d find it creepy if she crawled into my bed! There are so many songs I hear now that make me cringe... rainbow (dodgy comments about a groupie looking old enough), there’s another one I can’t quite remember but it’s along the same vein...

To use a pp's example, yes, the entertainment industry has made millions from the Holocaust and the vast majority of us will have watched films on the subject. But would we be so comfortable watching a Holocaust film if it was made by somebody who actively contributed in the atrocity and was using the film to make excuses for it?

My point was should this particular song still be making money for this particular artist (or rather his estate as he happens to be dead). Not talking about banning all songs by this artist or banning all songs about crimes/violence.

It's the combination.

Fairytale of New York.

I am very fond of old movies.
There is hardly a single one that is not misogynistic, racist, sexist, homophobic and/or keen on abusive relationships.

Pretty much the entire Hollywood drama output follows the 'Woman stepping outside acceptable behaviour gets punished' narrative.
Women can have sex and be powerful as long as they die before the end.
Men are allowed to smack women around as long as they deserve it.
Young women are seduced by men at least twice their age and its romantic not criminal.

As for music...there is barely a rock star who hasn't done something disgusting and written about it.

Its nothing new. Its ok to like something but not like whats behind it. There is too much absolutism now days. People need to learn how to compartmentalise.

Liking a 40 year old tune whilst understanding the flaws of the artist behind it is not the same as going for a drink with your sex offender neighbour because he is right laugh despite all the rapes.

Let's ban Father Christmas as well while we're at it
Creepy man breaking into children's bedrooms

We'd better ban all of Richard Strauss's music then. He was openly racist and very popular with the Nazis.

but my initial feeling it isn't outrageous to suggest that we should look again at giving air play to songs that normalise violence towards women. I don't think I said I agree with it... or I wouldn't have a personal Creepy Fucker list.

It is just what it has always been... the proof is in the reading! Poetry often explores the darker side of human thoughts, songs do too!

I'm not sure there is anything to be done about it. You can't ban all such songs - well, not without creating a Prude's 1984'esque world. But we can educate our youngsters until such songs are no longer of interest!