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AIBU to feel hurt by this?

232 replies

Whiterabbitears · 02/01/2018 18:57

My DH and our two DDs are Muslim. I'm not I'm white British but DH and I have always bought our girls up to accept and respect both our cultures so they can fit in with both. We live in a mainly white area with very few ethnic minority people so my girls have white friends. I have just seen on the dreaded Facebook a post from a friend of mine who's DD is also a friend of my DD asking why Muslims are allowed in this country, along the lines of "they hate dogs, pork and Jesus so they should get out" type of thing. Lots of people have liked and agreed with this that I know.

My friend and I have always been open about my family's faith and she has always claimed to be open minded about it and shown interest. I now feel that she's not being honest and probably judges us. I haven't commented on her post but I'm not sure how to proceed because right now I feel hurt, does she think my family should "get out too"?

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StickThatInYourPipe · 02/01/2018 19:20

Totally not the point of the thread but do Muslims hate dogs? Never heard that lovely ignorant stereotype before.

Op, she isn’t your friend she’s a fucking idiot. Defriend and ignore is your only way forward. Just be glad your DDs won’t grow up to be as ignorant and twattish as she is

BewareOfDragons · 02/01/2018 19:21

I'd be tempted to post, "Wow. Thanks for that."

Vile.

MunchMunch · 02/01/2018 19:21

Say something like "well I'll get dh and dc on the first flight out of here seeing as they're Muslims" and a Hmm face. As others have said she of course won't have meant your family.

Whiterabbitears · 02/01/2018 19:21

Islam is not a race but her attitude feels racist, she thinks my family should not be allowed to live here based on their faith, similar issue.

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kaytee87 · 02/01/2018 19:22

@Mumof56 obviously this is correct but people like the op describes tend to not think about that and are in fact racist. She wouldn't like my dh for instance as he's half Iranian and has a 'forrin' surname but actually my dh is agnostic, not Muslim.

Pengggwn · 02/01/2018 19:23

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Littlepond · 02/01/2018 19:23

My FIL is horrible bigoted and hates immigrants etc. Hates that they come over here, taking jobs and using the NHS. Then his son (my BIL) married a girl he met online from another country, she moved here, uses the NHS, got a job... "But she is different". Why, because she has a name, a face? These attitudes are disgusting. I'm sorry you are experiencing this, OP.

Whiterabbitears · 02/01/2018 19:23

I have not heard of Muslims not liking dogs either, I wonder if she thinks that non Muslims who don't like dogs should have to leave?

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Forkhandles22 · 02/01/2018 19:23

Oh OP that sounds horrid! Whilst I’m not a particular fan of any religion myself, it’s really no one else’s business what someone’s beliefs are & certainly no ones right to say someone else doesn’t belong here because they don’t share the same beliefs as them.
My advice OP, printscreen of her comment and PM her calling her on if.

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mslevine86 · 02/01/2018 19:24

How awful and how sad I am for you OP. I Think you should say something that tells her and her fb friends how disappointed you are in her and maybe a reminder that racist views such as hers wouldn't be tolerated by say, her employer? ;)
You don't have to go in all confrontational, but maybe something along the lines of 'Hey X, I'm surprised to see you have this opinion and im really saddened as I guess this means you don't see me and my family as welcome in your world, I'm afraid this means your daughter won't be welcome in mine anymore. For anyone reading this post my family are Muslim and I did consider X to be a friend but I'll be leaving this friendship behind now' give it a good hour and see if she blocks you before you delete her for good. You don't need people like that in your life Flowers

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kaytee87 · 02/01/2018 19:25

Meh my fil is Muslim and had a dog 🤷🏼‍♀️

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Curtainsandtv · 02/01/2018 19:27

I’m terrible for seeing things like this, writing a comment , then deleting said comment and just ‘de friending’ them (I don’t mind challenging views ‘face to face’ but HATE the public nature of any sort of confrontation on Facebook..). I have called one friend out but in a private message (Well I asked her to research Britain first). I think it maybe depends how well you know them? The people I just unfriended I barely knew anyone/weren’t friends, hun but if you know this woman maybe say something? I liked what a Pp said, ‘joke’ about whether you should leave..? Keeping it ‘light’ but getting the message accross. Or message her privately explaining you’ve seen it and are upset, does she remember that you are Muslim? Then it takes away the ‘public’ element? X

gingergenius · 02/01/2018 19:28

I'd say something like:

"What an incredibly sweeping statement . You do realise I'm a Muslim and none of those statements apply to me. I'm sad you feel this way."

Then I'd unfriend.

Theimpossiblegirl · 02/01/2018 19:28

I'd make a note of the likers, comment and then unfriend the lot of them.

I'm sure there are lots of your mutual friends that haven't seen the post, or are equally outraged and sat at home debating whether/how to respond.

Life is too short to be friends with twats/racists.

SilverySurfer · 02/01/2018 19:29

How utterly thick she must be. I don't blame you for wanting to call her out on it but doubt she has enough brain cells to comprehend.

wednesdayswench · 02/01/2018 19:30

I would comment:

'This post makes me really sad'

And then I'd unfriend her.

(Non confrontational, not aggressive not requiring a response, just the sadness you feel)

YorkieDorkie · 02/01/2018 19:30

It's so easy to want to say something but I think the small minds usually win in these situations. I'd take the high road and cut her out of your life. If asked, I'd be honest and say you were hurt by her comment about Muslims and don't feel that you can be friends.

SorenLorensonsInvisibleFriend · 02/01/2018 19:31

I like that, @wednesdayswench. It's even tempered, honest and should provoke some humanity rather than defensiveness. Surely!?

hungryhippo90 · 02/01/2018 19:31

White rabbit ears- there are also a vast amount of people who disagree with her beliefs.
X

Justanotherlurker · 02/01/2018 19:33

Never heard that lovely ignorant stereotype before.

Maybe you should read up on it then, ex muslim here.

Mumof56 · 02/01/2018 19:34

Islam is not a race but her attitude feels racist So we're just making up meanings to words now Hmm

does she remember that you are Muslim?

she probably won't remember because op isn't a Muslim Confused

You do realise I'm a Muslim and none of those statements apply to me Hmm

Loadedllama · 02/01/2018 19:35

How awful. If you can challenge her then I’d do it. I had a conversation with an acquaintance who was going off on ‘forriners taking our school places, housing, jobs etc and that we couldn’t keep taking them in etc. I said that we have a good history of taking people in who are escaping from terrible situations ie the Irish famine, the Holocaust, Indian succession etc and that now people are escaping from Afghanistan, Syria, Iran, Africa etc and need a place of safety and acceptance. I said if Britain had the attitude then that it getting now, then I for one wouldn’t be sat here having this conversation. Should our family not have been allowed in and be allowed to perish along with everyone else who didn’t leave? She backed down. The older I get and the more intolerance and stereotyping I come across the more I’m finding it important to challenge it.The referendum seems to have given a lot mor people the confidence to come out with their true feelings towards different religions and races and it isn’t pretty one bit.

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