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To say bras are not for boys

573 replies

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 01/01/2018 13:50

Another trans bully nightmare. Targetting the yellowberry bra brand now

lilymaynard.wordpress.com/2017/12/31/bra-gate-yellowberry-products-now-for-everyone/

When will this BS end?

OP posts:
Aeroflotgirl · 01/01/2018 15:23

Why target one company, when there are a whole myriad of retailers selling different types of bras. Someone is Looking to cause trouble.

Lovesagin · 01/01/2018 15:23

The point isn't that the marketing has changed or is going to, it's the fact that the company was bullied into it by someone who, imo, may or may not have an unpleasant motive in wanting to see marketing be gender neutral include young boys in bras

Terrylene · 01/01/2018 15:24

You are overlooking that gillette has a range for women and a series of adverts aimed at women

Nah - I just buy the menz. I like the 3 blades, loob strip and wobbly head. Can't stand pink.

MsGameandWatching · 01/01/2018 15:25

We said it would get worse before it got better and sure enough...

It won’t end here either, on and on this will go. But my gut feeling is that in the end common sense will prevail, it’s just going to take a while for the tide to turn.

PositivelyPERF · 01/01/2018 15:26

it's no wonder any valid concerns about trans issues you lot have get dismissed if you can froth over such a non issue as this

Yes, such a none issue so why the fuck are men in dresses bullying the company into removing references to real girls? 😒

Of course men have legs that go on forever, that because, in general, they're taller and built differently, because they're fucking men! That's one of the many reasons we don't want to share spaces with them. What a crock of shit.

SomeOldFogey · 01/01/2018 15:27

The point is not who can wear what clothes, but that it will shortly be illegal to mention the mere fact that biology is real, exists, and is sex-differentiated, or the different needs that women and girls have as a consequence of their biology.

Lime19 · 01/01/2018 15:28

I really wish this whole changing of everything just to please a minority would just stop.

Boys do not have boobs. They do not need a bra. If they want to wear one, please do but just buy it, wear it and shut up.

I buy Gillete razor blades for men and I am a woman. I buy them because they are much better than the crappy pink ones and blue ones for women. They just work better. There is no need for gillete to change their marketing. I sometimes use men's shower gel too. Smells good but I don't expect radox to change the shower gel name to "men's/women's/cis women (whatever that is)/transgender/gender neutral etc 2 in 1 shower gel and shampoo" Angry get over it!

ATeardropExplodes · 01/01/2018 15:28

Placemarking, what larks Pip.

Backingvocals · 01/01/2018 15:28

For those who have missed the point, trans activists contacted yellowberry to tell them to stop focusing on girls in their marketing.

Boys can wear bras if they like although why bother and personally I’m not a big fan of delusion. But still,knock yourselves out.

The issue was that TRAs objected to the marketing of bras, which are only needed by girls, to girls. Their entitlement knows no bounds.

PasstheStarmix · 01/01/2018 15:28

Boys don't have breasts so why would they need bras? The whole gender thing is going too far to the point of craziness! YANBU whatsoever here OP.

BashStreetKid · 01/01/2018 15:29

Boys in bras look utterly ridiculous

Does that also apply to men - e.g this one?

PositivelyPERF · 01/01/2018 15:29

common sense will prevail, it’s just going to take a while for the tide to turn unfortunately a lot of women and girls will be victims of assault and abuse, before that happens. Actually it will probably only happen when a well known woman of power or her daughter is victimised.

runwalkrun · 01/01/2018 15:31

What would make a bra suitable for a man?

Well, for a start, their shoulders and backs are more masculine looking.
Probably because they're male.
So the bras would have to be bigger fitting around.

olliegarchy99 · 01/01/2018 15:31

lime
I really wish this whole changing of everything just to please a minority would just stop.
^^ this

MsGameandWatching · 01/01/2018 15:31

That really is NOT a “beautiful guy rocking a dress”. What are you talking about? That’s a very ordinary looking person just wearing a dress. That’s all. Nothing to praise or hey worked up about. An ordinary person in a rather plain frock.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 01/01/2018 15:32

This is not about whether men and boys should wear bras. This is about a transgender activist lobbying a small company set up and run by a very young woman which until now has made young girls its target market. I've attached a screenshot, which I saved from Lily Maynard's blog. The activist is explicit that it isn't acceptable now to say something is just for girls. S/he thinks the company should use gender neutral language about their products so that they are more inclusive.

As Lily has said in her article, are they similarly lobbying all the big clothing retailers and asking them not to do this? And if not, why not? Could it be because they thought a young woman and a small, growing company were much easier targets?

Final point - I for one would be much happier to think that a young girl struggling with having an increasingly female-looking body would wear a very plain, unwired, unpadded, unsexy bra instead of binding her breasts to flatten them. I doubt it will happen though.

To say bras are not for boys
PasstheStarmix · 01/01/2018 15:32

Bras are only needed by those that have breasts and I think it is absolutely fine for marketing to be targeted only at those that need the product. Any others that want and don't need are quite free to purchase. I think the world is going crazy.

Aeroflotgirl · 01/01/2018 15:32

I know, you don't find trans men +biological women) being as forceful or in your face as transwomen (biological men(. Just buy a bloody bra from the many retailers that stick them, and stop bullying. That company is specifically for teenage girls, it's a fairly small company. So bugger off with your gender bullshit.

SilverySurfer · 01/01/2018 15:34

I am so sick and tired of this bullshit. What's next? Males insisting on tampons not being marketed solely at women? Presumably they will want to buy them to stick up their arses? Angry

Aeroflotgirl · 01/01/2018 15:34

I loved that reply, I would have told them to deck off and do one, and Libby the big retailers, not bulky a small start up.

PasstheStarmix · 01/01/2018 15:35

Some people will complain over anything; something like that can destroy smaller companies.

Glumglowworm · 01/01/2018 15:35

Nobody is saying boys/men/trans/non binary people can’t wear bras. The company doesn’t check the sex or gender of who buys their product.

The objection is to a company being bullied for having young girls as it’s target market for a product aimed at young females with breasts. And being forced to back track and effectively say that trans activists are more important than the brands target market.

Backingvocals · 01/01/2018 15:37

I think someone (police lgbt liaison person iirc) has already complained about “feminine
hygiene” products as the phrase is triggering. Fuck this shit.

HopefullyAnonymous · 01/01/2018 15:37

If they started marketing tampons at men, they’d probably be classed as an essential item and therefore exempt from tax Confused

Lovesagin · 01/01/2018 15:37

Runwalkrun but there are already companies that make bras for men who want to wear them, whatever their reasons. Why has someone targeted a company who make them for young girls when chances are there will be back sizes that would also fit young boys, again should they want to wear them whatever their reasons?

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