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To say bras are not for boys

573 replies

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 01/01/2018 13:50

Another trans bully nightmare. Targetting the yellowberry bra brand now

lilymaynard.wordpress.com/2017/12/31/bra-gate-yellowberry-products-now-for-everyone/

When will this BS end?

OP posts:
wrenika · 01/01/2018 14:46

If a man, or a boy, wants to wear a bra he may. Having bras suitable for them is great. It's also great for those transitioning.
Why should any item of clothing be gender segregated? I've seen men rocking dresses and looking infinitely more beautiful than a female would. For a start...they have legs for days...
For example: Beautiful guy rocking a dress

Lovesagin · 01/01/2018 14:49

What would make a bra suitable for a man?

Terrylene · 01/01/2018 14:49

Has anyone seen anything eg Gillette the best a man can get, get challenged? Even though, in fact, many women do use men's razors and always have?

Good point. I have used those razors for many years. Perhaps I ought to twitter them about why they are centring men in their advertising and ignoring women Grin

misscockerspaniel · 01/01/2018 14:51

FFS. How ludicrous can you get. (This has made me break my new year resolution not to swear).

UpABitLate · 01/01/2018 14:51

Ah and here we have a comment saying that boys in bras and men in dresses are better, look better, than girls and women.

Boys should wear bras because their bodies are better and they look great.

Girls though, women, tend to look a bit shit. Their legs don't go on "for days" and obviously bras are all about looking pretty and nothing to do with practical reasons like holding girls breasts, stopping men staring and commenting on developing bodies, all that shit.

It's infuriating. And wildly misogynistic.

Why do girls who are developing need bras in the first place? Because in our society breasts are considered highly sexual, to leave them unrestrained is obscene. Men start starting, they comment. Breasts are uncomfortable when doing sport. Yeah but fuck all that who really needs bras is boys.

AnnaMagdalenaGluck · 01/01/2018 14:51

Honestly, it's no wonder any valid concerns about trans issues you lot have get dismissed if you can froth over such a non issue as this. You look utterly ridiculous here.

Except that there have been calls for the employee who originally said the bras were for girls not boys to lose their job. Which is excessive, to say the least.

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/01/2018 14:51

Perhaps we should be marketing sanitary wear as unisex. Any of you boys up for an anal bung? It’s complete with applicator and string for easy release.

Oh sorry, I shouldn’t be saying boys either, should I? After all they may identify as gender fluid or female.

usualGubbins · 01/01/2018 14:52

Oh dear. Perhaps if boys are needing to wear bras there may be an element of being overweight here? And girls, please don't tell me that you find man boobs attractive!!

BoneyBackJefferson · 01/01/2018 14:52

upabit and terry

You are overlooking that gillette has a range for women and a series of adverts aimed at women.

The only tag line that I can remember getting changed for being male centric is yorkie.

UpABitLate · 01/01/2018 14:52

Transboys tend to have binders marketed to them not bras.

Because this is all about progess.

restbiterepeat · 01/01/2018 14:53

Reaches for the man-sized tissues to mop my furrowed brow.

UpABitLate · 01/01/2018 14:55

"upabit and terry

You are overlooking that gillette has a range for women and a series of adverts aimed at women.

The only tag line that I can remember getting changed for being male centric is yorkie."

Huh?

Don't be thick.

Gillette has the tagline "the best a man can get". This is cisnormative and transphobic.

And way more people need and use razors than bras aimed at developing teenage girls.

I'm not sure the fact that Gillette have "women's" razors (women's ones in many brands charging a premium for making them pink/ "girly") is a great argument here TBH.

I think you have entirely missed the point WHOOSH right over your head.

CakeByTheSea · 01/01/2018 14:56

Bras are for breasts. If a young customer, with breasts whatever their gender, wants to buy one from Yellowberry and can find one that they like, that fits, then they should buy it. That is how I have always thought that shopping works. I don’t expect the right to call out M&S, R&P etc because I don’t fancy this seasons’s offerings, or I feel they are not targeting me in their marketing, I just look elsewhere. Yellowberry was set up with good intention and with a target audience in mind, nothing wrong with that, nobody is being excluded from buying. When are we going to stop this nonsense and focus on real problems. Bravo Yellowberry.

wrenika · 01/01/2018 14:59

Well, to be fair, he is beautiful and is wearing that dress infinitely better than a short, dumpy female. (Which I am, btw.) Men in a dress and heels can look really hot.

But that's not the point of this thread. How is a man wearing a bra going to harm you females? It's not about moobs. It could be a guy wanting to feminise a bit - explore his appearance - by padding out a small bra. Why shouldn't he be able to do that?
Why is that any different to a woman who wants to play with masculinity by wearing a binder and a packer some days? Gender is not a binary. We are all individuals. And a man wearing a bra is not going to do you any harm.

sugaredstrawberries · 01/01/2018 14:59

Hmm when will this end? Boys do not have breasts, period. Girls need them, period. And as a PP has mentioned, sex education in schools becoming 'neutral', no talk of what each male and female body has inside them?! What makes them who they are? It's all getting crazy Shock

BoneyBackJefferson · 01/01/2018 15:02

UpABitLate

Don't be thick

Great way to win your argument there, but if you want to make a prat of yourself then go tweet gillette and see what they say.

I think you have entirely missed the point WHOOSH right over your head.

I haven't missed the point, you yourself have posted

And way more people need and use razors than bras aimed at developing teenage girls.

that would be why gillette markets to all and yellowberry markets to just women (something that I am all for).

But you carry on turning people away from your point of view.

EvilRingahBitch · 01/01/2018 15:07

OTOH I’d much rather a teenager with two X chromosomes who identifies as male wore a teen bra appropriate to their developing breasts than a chest binder. Given that this is a growing trend whether we like it or not, the message that “you can wear a grey teen bra even if you call yourself a boy” will minimise harm.

CheapSausagesAndSpam · 01/01/2018 15:08

I am a woman and have been very flat chested all my life. I wear bras at times. Boys and men can too if they want.

Floellabumbags · 01/01/2018 15:13

Is this the first 2018 trans thread? Congratulations OP, you must be fucking delighted with yourself.

stilltheykeepcoming · 01/01/2018 15:16

Whatever next - jockstraps for girls?

SpitefulMidLifeAnimal · 01/01/2018 15:16

Why can't a man/boy wear a bra if they want to? It's not up to us to police other people's clothing choices. As long as a person isn't indecent, who cares?

mindutopia · 01/01/2018 15:17

Well, they can if they have boobs. Surely bras are a supportive garment. If you have breasts (which people who are transitioning do), then why would you not wear a bra? Some women who are flat chested opt not to wear bras. Some men who have had breast cancer (yes, men get breast cancer) have to wear bras as support garments during recovery. Why does it matter what clothes anyone wears? Wear what you want. If it bothers you that a brand has changed their marketing, then don't buy from them.

Aeroflotgirl · 01/01/2018 15:18

I agree op, yes there is nothing stopping either sex wearing bras, they are primarily a female item of clothing as boys/men don't tend to have breasts. It's like asking for a floral pair of y fronts or jock strap. Don't be so silly.

OldPony · 01/01/2018 15:20

I thought transwomen wanted to be considered girls and women? Now they want to be boys too? I don't get it, the argument isn't logical.

Aeroflotgirl · 01/01/2018 15:21

There are plenty of plain neutral bras, or sports bras, don't see the problem.

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