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AIBU?

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To think friend is being a bit weird.

296 replies

Adikia · 29/12/2017 05:21

Friend has met my DD 3 times, because we live far apart and friend has no DC, so when we meet up it tends to be for a night out rather than anything child friendly, friend has also been adamant up until recently that they don't like children. A few months ago we took DD(9) out for a day trip to somewhere they were both interested in, DD was on her very best behaviour and friend has decided my DD is amazing (which obviously she is). Friend posted DD something for Christmas. Not a cheap something you might buy a friends child, a thoughtful expensive something specific to DD's fairly unusual hobby. He has also bought me a very expensive Christmas present, like over £200, it's a much better model/brand of something I had been saving up to get myself. Friend is not well off, probably slightly better off than I am but certainly not rich enough that he won't have had to save to afford the gifts. We've never really done gifts before, maybe the odd bottle of local cider or fruit wines but never more than that.

He has started sending me emails for DD asking if I could pass them on, which I'm fine with, there's nothing in them that worries me, it's just that there are a lot of emails, he also wrote in her Christmas card 'thanks for being such a great mate' which just felt a bit odd, plus he called specifically to ask how parents evening went, which really, other than doting grandparents who actually cares how other peoples kids parents evenings went? reading the emails, he often tells DD I am great, or beautiful, or wise, which is weird for us, we don't usually compliment each other. He's also been facebook and whatsapp messaging me 5/6 times a day and if I don't reply I then get emails and texts, he's phoned me every morning before work and every afternoon on my way home since about October for no real reason. Previously we spoke via facebook maybe once a week. He let slip the other day that he checks the local bus app before calling, he checks the local weather forecast, he reads my local news, he has literally no connection to the area other than me living here.

So as not to dripfeed, friend is very recently divorced, messages got more intense just after the divorce went through. A large part of the issue is he decided he wants DC, ex-wife doesn't, and to be fair has been very clear on that since they were first dating. He has asked me quite a few times if I think he'll be a good dad, and if I think he is good husband material. Assuming it was the divorce knocking his confidence I spent an evening telling him how lucky any woman would be, he's only early 30's so plenty of time yet etc. Messages started that evening. I am married, have been for 10 years.

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Sugarpiehoneyeye · 30/12/2017 21:24

Hey @Adikia nobody is judging you. Are you having a tough time sweet ? I imagine you are. We truly are here for you, and not to judge you, sometimes we are so close to the woods, we cannot see the trees.
Come back and let us know how you are, best love SugarPie x

Adikia · 30/12/2017 22:58

Sorry, rather lost the order things were asked in, so to try to answer everything...

I'm just suggesting you raise your creep radar in future. The funny thing is my creep radar is usually really good, but we've been friends since we were children and he's never been creepy before, I mean there's 20 years of trust before this!

For those asking about the divorce, the ex wife was very clear from when they very first got together that she does not want children, ever, as was he. He changed his mind, she didn't.

AvoidingDM I've known him since before then, I think we were about 8, roughly the same age (less than a year between us) and apart from asking me out once at 13, no, he's never been inappropriate or really treated me any differently than he treats any of his male friends.

Will speak to school, they are very hot on who picks up anyway but just in case, same for clubs she goes to.

Not a hobby he could really offer to take her to do alone, no, its hard to explain without saying what the hobby is but its not something he would be physically able to do or know how to, and not something you can drop a child to and watch either.

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Rainbowmother · 30/12/2017 23:03

He sounds manic. I think he wishes you were all his family minus your DH.

Researching your area and all that is just too much. Messages to your daughter etc.... it's just nuts?!

sonjadog · 30/12/2017 23:08

Have you heard any more from him after you asked him to tone it down?

Grammarist · 30/12/2017 23:09

He could be having a breakdown and you're somehow the focus.
Just watch your back. Not a nice situation to be in. I really feel for you xxxx

Adikia · 30/12/2017 23:15

I got a reply, it said 'sorry, I think some wires have got crossed, I'll call you and DD later to smooth things over, when's a good time?'

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SparklyMagpie · 30/12/2017 23:15

Just reading this makes me incredibly uncomfortable

Have you heard back from him OK?

I'd block all contact

DancesWithOtters · 30/12/2017 23:15

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SparklyMagpie · 30/12/2017 23:16

X-post

He doesn't get it does he. Why does he need to phone you and DD

Nahh he's not right

Adikia · 30/12/2017 23:16

Obviously he will not be calling DD to smooth anything over. Hmm

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Pannacott · 30/12/2017 23:17

Ah if you are friends I wouldn't be too harsh yet. I'd address it head on.

'Friend, it seems like you are becoming a bit super attached to me and DD. Are you wishing you had a family of your own? You've got so much to offer! Don't waste your time on us so much, we're happily settled with DH, get cracking on a family of your own. Are you online dating? Loads of women are looking to settle down in their early 30s. You'll be snapped up. Let's see your profile...' etc.

Good luck.

SparklyMagpie · 30/12/2017 23:18

I wouldn't answer OP, I think if it was me, I'd send one more message just making clear that contact ceases.

It doesn't appear he'll give up easily,so I wouldn't give the opportunity for him to be able to try and continue communication/contact

AtrociousCircumstance · 30/12/2017 23:20

Oh my god. He is ignoring you completely. He just wants contact with you and your child, whatever you say.

Tell him this is serious and either he stops contacting you and your family or you will speak to the police about harrassment.

CremeFresh · 30/12/2017 23:21

Crossed wires ? How on earth does he think there's been crossed wires?

GingerbreadMa · 30/12/2017 23:29

"Lonely" is not a justification for being overbearing or obsessive.

Pannacott · 30/12/2017 23:31

When I posted, only half the thread had loaded. But still, apart from a massively increased rate of interest and contact from him, it doesn't sound like there are any major red flags. He hadn't been interpersonally dominant, he hasn't tried to push any boundaries that you've laid down. You've only just realised it's a bit OTT yourself. Now you are communicating that to him - give him a chance to agree with you and change his behaviour.

You've got a 20 year friendship, the most likely explanation for his behaviour (rather than grooming) is that, as he says, he just decided he really really wants a family and is clumsily romanticising that, and your family. I wouldn't go no contact without talking to him and giving him a chance to reflect on and change his behaviour.

GingerbreadMa · 30/12/2017 23:34

His reply is code for "your feelings are wrong and I will ignore and undeemine them as I am fixated on this course now"

His reply should increase your spidey senses. His reply is massively worrying. "Wires have been crossed" = I wont accept that you just dont LIKE my recent behaviour , or that you have every right to feel that way and press the brakes!

TinyTimsCrutch · 30/12/2017 23:36

Could you get your Dh to answer any further calls or messages? Does dh know the full extent of it all?

Adikia · 30/12/2017 23:37

I don't understand where there would be crossed wires either, his reply does read as 'I don't care that you are uncomfortable and am gong to convince you you are wrong'

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GingerbreadMa · 30/12/2017 23:41

I don't understand where there would be crossed wires either, his reply does read as 'I don't care that you are uncomfortable and am gong to convince you you are wrong

Yes that's exactly how it reads to me.
I dont care how lonely or fragile I am, if someone tells me theyre finding me overbearing my instict is to apologise and slink away to lick my mortified wounds, not to ring them later to argue my case for continued regular contact!!!

BuffaloCustardbath · 30/12/2017 23:42

Hmmm, his reply is a bit concerning - he's not exactly overcome with embarrassment at how his behaviour has come across, is he??
I was erring more towards gently steering him back into the right path like Pannacott suggests but his reply doesn't sit well.

puglife15 · 30/12/2017 23:42

Sorry someone may have already said this but it raises possible concern with me that your DD is a similar age you were when you met him, and he asked you out a few years later... Could it be possible he sees your younger self who he had feelings for in your DD?

GingerbreadMa · 30/12/2017 23:44

To tell someone who doesnt want your company right now that theyre wrong is not within the range of normal friendship ups and downs.

Monoblock67 · 30/12/2017 23:46

Someone close to me had over 20 years trust in their friend who was convicted and jailed for being a paedophile. I’m not saying that’s the case here, just that you can’t ever truly know people.

sonjadog · 30/12/2017 23:46

Hmm, I thought maybe he was getting a bit carried away with a fantasy but he does seem to be obsessed. I think you will have to be very blunt now.

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