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AIBU?

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To ruin everyone's Christmas?

213 replies

awifeyforlifey · 21/12/2017 17:55

This is my first thread, but I think I need some other perspectives here. Sorry for the length, as the whole thing's a bit fraught.

Background: every year, my DH's family celebrates Christmas the exact same way. When I married him, they expected all the traditions to continue the same: including having us sleep over on the floor of their already packed apartment so we could "wake up to Christmas," which they've all done since they were children. DH used to do it as a grown-up before we married (even after college, and even though he's always lived nearby). As we (still) lived nearby and I have medical issues that would make it difficult we declined the very first year, which did put several noses out of joint (although they were aware of my health issues) but the precedent was set and everyone was fine with it by the next year.

Fast forward several more years and we now have a baby under a year old. I should add that the only other change in tradition that's been "allowed" up to this point by DH's family is that the now married children can go visit their spouse's parents for a few hours before coming back in the evening. It's been this way for the past several years, which short-changes my parents a bit, but they're less sticklers for tradition and have been very gracious about it.

Our problem is this: the back and forth no longer works with a baby, so we've let everyone know that this year we're doing our own Christmas at home in the morning, and splitting our afternoon availability between DH's family and mine, who mercifully live somewhat close together. My parents, as always, are fine with it.

We know DH's family's day is structured with traditions so we've said not to change anything or wait for us, and that if it doesn't work for them to have us during the time we're available for them, not to worry about it. We'll spend Christmas with my folks.

Apparently we've now ruined Christmas. We've had push-back from several of DH's family (all with no children) about how much more convenient it would be for them not to have to change the layout of the day to accommodate us (which we've not asked for). We've had requests to exchange our availability for them with the time we reserved for my folks (which doesn't work for the baby's sleep/eat schedule - he's never been to DH's family to visit as he's not been invited, but his high chair/playpen/etc. are at my parents' house and we've timed it so that he'd have access to them at the right point).

DH's family has since then all discussed it between them and told us what their plan for us that day is. We've nicely declined and repeated our availability. I received a pursed-lips reply that they'd "have to check with everybody and get back to you, and we'll find something that works for EVERYONE." I'm honestly I'm not quite sure what that means, as we really can't change our availability that day. It either works for them or it doesn't.

The reason they want us to change our plans appears to be the fact that we'll be at DH's family's house during the time that the other grown-up children have "always" visited their spouses' families, and that they'll miss seeing the baby if we don't change times. While I do understand, if they do REALLY want to see the baby there doesn't appear to be any reason they can't. We gave them a week's advance notice to plan, and DH's siblings are married into my extended family. I've spoken with them about our plans in advance and they told me not to worry, that they'd be sure to get with us at some point that day; and if not, they'd see us at the family party the weekend before.

DH and I have discussed it, and both agreed we had laid out the day based on what was best for the baby, but I've gotten bombarded again today until I'm feeling a bit crap about the whole thing and wondering if there's something horrible I've missed. Now it's being suggested that everyone be invited back to mine in the afternoon instead, which would definitely ruin all the evening traditions, so I don't understand it at all. AIBU to just want to stick to the original plan?

OP posts:
Carriecakes80 · 22/12/2017 21:33

Oh my word, have been there, done that, and got the rotten tee-shirt gift wrapped!

I had to make or break one year, with four children to try to take to everyones home because I was the only one with children, and everyone HAD to see them on Christmas day, we were pulled from pillar to post! So, I made a decision, and told everyone I would making my own traditions from now on, and anyone and everyone could come and see us on Boxing day! Christmas day is for enjoyment, love, peace and all that bollocks, so f*&^ em, and start your very own tradition of taking the phone off the hook, enjoying your baby, and your husband, and a few glasses of port while everyone else gets in a tizz!

PurplePenguins · 22/12/2017 21:40

OMG what a PITA. Tell them it's this time or no time xxx

keffie12 · 22/12/2017 21:42

Flaming hell! Go tell them all to go forth and multiply. Sounds as if your husband is on your side.

Get him to tell them no which from what you have said he will. The main thing for him to tell them is to stop bugging you with all this by text.

I am a Gran and Mom so visit both sites as I have duel membership Grin we go with the plans they want to put in place each year. None of us say anything on either side.

No way what they do is acceptable. They got away with this for too long. Your very blessed with your parents.

Time you did Christmas for you your husband and your baby

GlomOfNit · 22/12/2017 21:47

... WTF is a 'schedule transition'?

Ikanon · 22/12/2017 21:52

Many parents on here seem to have been blessed with easy going 'sleep anywhere' babies. DD1 was not. Our lives revolved around her schedule not ours because if not we'd have an overtired monster on our hands. Do what you like. Someone will always get shitty at Christmas!

ToftyAC · 22/12/2017 21:55

What the bloody fuck? You tell them (politely naturally) to take a hike. If they want to see you then they know where you live. Have been in a similar situ and was SO glad the first time we said we’re Christmasing in our own home.

SaturndayNight · 22/12/2017 21:55

WTF is a 'schedule transition'?

It's unique to precious first-borns Wink

Weebo · 22/12/2017 22:02

Has the OP personally offended you, SaturndayNight?

JanKind · 22/12/2017 22:11

Did you say your baby has never been to your ILs as he has never been invited?

BitOutOfPractice · 23/12/2017 00:12

To be honest you both sound really inflexible. Them about their Christmas routine, you about your baby's

Ginburee · 23/12/2017 00:14

Make the break, how do you see Christmas future?
I am a working nurse so Christmas is always a little different to us and to add insult to injury this week I lost my darling father.
You need to make Christmas for your family.

LizzieSiddal · 23/12/2017 00:23

I agree with others that a week is very short notice for this massive change in plans. If you’d said it at the beginning of December, everyone may have been more flexible. I’m sure they all want to see your baby.

And the bit about the breakfast and waking up in his own cot is bay shit 😂. It’s much easier to be flexible with Xmas when they are babies. Once they are around 3 or 4, we did stay at home forXmas morning as it was so much easier but before that they really do not know it’s Xmas day!

CasanovaFrankenstein · 23/12/2017 00:50

I think there's a bit of a muddle between rigid Christmas traditions and what is manageable for you this year. If you can't do what suits you when you have young children when can you? Mine was a nightmare sleeper and into everything and would be massively overstimulated by something like this with all the to-ing and fro-ing. It's not like traditions are necessarily broken forever.

I do think insisting on what sounds like a bank of fixed traditions is asking for trouble at some point, just based on experience of being on the periphery of similar situation. It can just steamroller over other people's traditions and needs because one family are so inflexible - it can be very insulting to everyone else.

Possibly figuring how much of the issue is linked to traditions and how much to in/convenience on the day this year is too difficult!

Halfdrankbrew · 23/12/2017 00:56

Exact same thing happened to me last year, it was our daughter's first Christmas and I just wanted it in our own home, in peace. For years I'd always fitted into my in-laws plans, but once we had our own family I wanted to start making our own traditions.

I was accused of ruining my mother in laws Christmas and she cried all Christmas Eve (apparently) it was basically because she wanted to play grandma in front of her 15 guests. I rained on her parade and she wasn't happy. To cut a loooong story short it ended with us going to see them ALL DAY Boxing Day and my in laws sneakily taking my husband into another room to tell him "you will not do that again" (have our own family Christmas Hmm) and that "you need to stand up to her" (me his wife Hmm). He's mid 30s ffs!!! He was told off for spending Christmas Day with his own family! When I found out what had been said once we'd left, all hell broke loose and we didn't speak for months. This year we have had another baby, they've not even asked us what we are doing over Christmas, I'm waiting for the Xmas eve crocodile tears Grin!!

So op what I would say is put your foot down and stick to it. Our daughters 1st Christmas was ruined last year due to my in laws behaviour, I'm never going to let them ruin my Christmas again! You do what you want to do and enjoy your baby's 1st Christmas Smile

Nerfballs · 23/12/2017 01:08

I'm with the poster who said y'all seem to think your easy babies are the norm. Well bully for you. Two of mine have been relatively easy, but FB was colicky, refluxy, and easily overstimulated. He didn't and still does not 'switch off' in public and sleep when he needs to. Being our first we believed the whole "baby needs to fit around your life" philosophy. BS he did. Our first several months were miserable, made worse by trying to go about our life as normal. We took him to a wedding several hours away, did the whole cart-him-about-babies-are-easy thing - cue 24 miserable hours walking the floor with him in the motel room. He did not sleep AT ALL. We have video from several family events where you can hear him screaming in the background. Not filmed were the hours of me in tears in a back room trying to calm him down, get him to eat or sleep, while everyone else had fun and I felt I was going insane trapped in a place that wasn't mine. And I like my ILs!! We wised up several months in and started putting boundaries in place. Some people were fine, some just really did not understand, but I placed his needs and our overall mental health above others 'needing' me somewhere. So please do not judge others by your own situation, some babies just do not fit in with adult timetables, all are unique little human beings and their needs deserve to be taken into consideration.

As far as the OP goes, more notice should probably have been given but YANBU wanting to do your own thing and run it around what is best for your family and your baby. Is it disappointing for others? Sometimes, but it's hardly the end of the world. Families grow and change, preferences are going to be different and quite frankly it sounds to me like a miserable Christmas if you have to force people to be there.

mehhh · 23/12/2017 01:18

Oh my god what a pain in the arse

Tell them to get a grip... stick with your plan whatever works for you

berni140 · 23/12/2017 07:40

There's a few things, first off, as someone said above this is all being planned/discussed rather late. They do sound like they have no idea what having a child entails, and that haven't copped on that life changes and you have a right to make your own traditions. The other thing, however is that it outside of Christmas it sounds like you may be favouring your own set of grandparents and of course we do that, but they shouldn't have to ask about seeing their grandchildren, you should be popping over or suggesting it too. It's not fair that a child doesn't get to see both sets of family and maybe they don't reali it's something that is to be scheduled. Maybe take a step back and stop seeing them as not being part of the family (as I myse did for a long time). You're all one big family now and someday your child won't have to sets of grandparents. Try to see things from all sides

jocarter67 · 23/12/2017 07:59

Put your foot down, this is ridiculous. When hubby and I got married 30 years ago we decided there and then we would be staying at home Christmas Day when we had children, anyone was welcome to us but we were firmly staying home. This was mainly due to me remembering being dragged from place to place Christmas Day every year as a child, and just desperately wanting to stay at home and play with my new gifts

namechange2222 · 23/12/2017 08:21

So pleased I'm not the only one to lol at schedule transition Afraid I couldn't take anything seriously after that

Itscurtainsforyou · 23/12/2017 08:50

I agree with nerfballs- my babies also don't respond well to a change in routine and certainly don't sleep anywhere where there's plenty going on.

Op YANBU - put your foot down now and have your own family Christmas.

derxa · 23/12/2017 08:56

We're probably being a bit precious with our baby but he's in the middle of a schedule transition What does that even mean? We didn't go to any parents' houses Christmas because we lived over 300 miles away. I'd have loved to have had GPs nearby.

Jerseysilkvelour · 23/12/2017 09:18

I ruined Christmas this year in a similar way. Told my parents we are staying at home this year and will come round for a couple of hours in the afternoon instead of staying the whole day (because they are an absolute nightmare and use the day to pick up where they left off bullying me as a child). Cue recriminations about ruined Christmas, the other day mother said "so you've not come round and changed your mind then". No I bloody haven't! stick to your guns.

berni140 · 23/12/2017 09:37

derxa if I had an emoji at hand I'd post it, sorry to hear that! (and good point!)

derxa · 23/12/2017 09:47

berni It's OK the DC are now in their late 20s. Grin

pam290358 · 23/12/2017 10:21

Your in laws are being selfish in the extreme and you need to get a grip before this becomes more of a problem than it already is. There are a few things which need to be addressed - first and foremost is the fact that you now have a baby and if it were me I would take them aside after Christmas and gently explain to them that you now have a family of your own and you want to establish your own Christmas traditions. It’s a lovely time for your child, and for you as parents, and they should put aside their own obsession with what after all is THEIR tradition, and allow for the fact that you and your husband need to be allowed to have quiet, cosy Christmases with just the three of you and any future additions to your family. Tell them that of course you will make time for them over the holiday but you must be allowed to plan things for yourselves around what is convenient and do-able for YOU, not them.

Secondly, it’s fairly obvious that they don’t consider your family to be as important as this long running tradition. Whether or not your family are OK with it is immaterial - it’s simply unfair of your in laws to put themselves and their tradition before everyone and everything else. They need to understand that you have to make time for your own family - especially as your baby is their grandchild too.

Thirdly, this all sounds utterly knackering !! They need to be told gently but firmly that these long running traditions are no longer workable and that if they continue to insist, you will have to give this Christmas a miss altogether as the ‘schedule’ is simply too exhausting for you and the baby and it doesn’t allow for you to give your own family proper attention. You don’t say whether you work or are a full time Mum, but your husband works and and you both need to relax and chill out at this time of the year.

Maybe it’s time for a new tradition. Suggest that next year, you all do your own thing on Christmas Day and then perhaps get together on Boxing Day for a buffet, or something less formal. You could all take turns hosting it and work out a plan beforehand so that everyone brings a dish and a bottle of some sort to spread the workload and expense - much more relaxed and enjoyable than running around like a headless chicken on what should be a peaceful time of the year, and you could suggest to the in laws that this will take the strain off them. Sorry, but it really is time to put your foot down and be firm about it, otherwise Christmas will be a time of year you will come to dread, and eventually it will end in a row. Oh - and sleep on the floor on Christmas Eve ??!! I think not. My own Christmas tradition is a complete change of the bed on Christmas Eve morning so that the night before Christmas is spent in a freshly laundered comfy bed. I can recommend it.