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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ruin everyone's Christmas?

213 replies

awifeyforlifey · 21/12/2017 17:55

This is my first thread, but I think I need some other perspectives here. Sorry for the length, as the whole thing's a bit fraught.

Background: every year, my DH's family celebrates Christmas the exact same way. When I married him, they expected all the traditions to continue the same: including having us sleep over on the floor of their already packed apartment so we could "wake up to Christmas," which they've all done since they were children. DH used to do it as a grown-up before we married (even after college, and even though he's always lived nearby). As we (still) lived nearby and I have medical issues that would make it difficult we declined the very first year, which did put several noses out of joint (although they were aware of my health issues) but the precedent was set and everyone was fine with it by the next year.

Fast forward several more years and we now have a baby under a year old. I should add that the only other change in tradition that's been "allowed" up to this point by DH's family is that the now married children can go visit their spouse's parents for a few hours before coming back in the evening. It's been this way for the past several years, which short-changes my parents a bit, but they're less sticklers for tradition and have been very gracious about it.

Our problem is this: the back and forth no longer works with a baby, so we've let everyone know that this year we're doing our own Christmas at home in the morning, and splitting our afternoon availability between DH's family and mine, who mercifully live somewhat close together. My parents, as always, are fine with it.

We know DH's family's day is structured with traditions so we've said not to change anything or wait for us, and that if it doesn't work for them to have us during the time we're available for them, not to worry about it. We'll spend Christmas with my folks.

Apparently we've now ruined Christmas. We've had push-back from several of DH's family (all with no children) about how much more convenient it would be for them not to have to change the layout of the day to accommodate us (which we've not asked for). We've had requests to exchange our availability for them with the time we reserved for my folks (which doesn't work for the baby's sleep/eat schedule - he's never been to DH's family to visit as he's not been invited, but his high chair/playpen/etc. are at my parents' house and we've timed it so that he'd have access to them at the right point).

DH's family has since then all discussed it between them and told us what their plan for us that day is. We've nicely declined and repeated our availability. I received a pursed-lips reply that they'd "have to check with everybody and get back to you, and we'll find something that works for EVERYONE." I'm honestly I'm not quite sure what that means, as we really can't change our availability that day. It either works for them or it doesn't.

The reason they want us to change our plans appears to be the fact that we'll be at DH's family's house during the time that the other grown-up children have "always" visited their spouses' families, and that they'll miss seeing the baby if we don't change times. While I do understand, if they do REALLY want to see the baby there doesn't appear to be any reason they can't. We gave them a week's advance notice to plan, and DH's siblings are married into my extended family. I've spoken with them about our plans in advance and they told me not to worry, that they'd be sure to get with us at some point that day; and if not, they'd see us at the family party the weekend before.

DH and I have discussed it, and both agreed we had laid out the day based on what was best for the baby, but I've gotten bombarded again today until I'm feeling a bit crap about the whole thing and wondering if there's something horrible I've missed. Now it's being suggested that everyone be invited back to mine in the afternoon instead, which would definitely ruin all the evening traditions, so I don't understand it at all. AIBU to just want to stick to the original plan?

OP posts:
user1485778793 · 21/12/2017 19:34

I've come to realise my dh' s parents are very demanding of our time. To the detriment of enjoyment and my own family.

With people like this you have to stand your ground or they walk all over you. We are having to do this and there are plenty of comments, guilt trips and even tears from his parents. But they need to learn

You are adults and have your own family. Don't give in or you will open the flood gates for further pressure when the next event comes up Smile

OnTheRise · 21/12/2017 19:39

Stop engaging with them when they try to talk to you about it.

Tell them as it's clear they're not happy with your suggestions you'll see them after Christmas when everything's less stressful. And then stick to it.

They sound so controlling. Not fun at all.

LoveInTokyo · 21/12/2017 19:47

They sound fucking crazy.

You are two adults with a small baby. You can do what you like for Christmas and you don't have to dance to their tune.

I daresay there are others who would secretly appreciate you breaking from tradition because they also might want to do something different for Christmas one day, like spending it with their spouse's family, or even, god forbid, going on holiday.

What would they do if your parents lives in Australia? Would they expect you to never see your family at Christmas ever again?

shinysinkredemption · 21/12/2017 19:53

It looks as though the reason you are not fitting in with the time that suits them is because your DC's stuff is at your folks house. I wonder whether you could be a little flexible and bring the highchair and playpen to your DH's family so everyone can see the baby together - I get why they might all be so excited about getting the whole family together on Christmas day. Yes perhaps they are being a bit overzealous about the whole thing but it's clear that Christmas day is a massive deal to them, and with just a bit of flexibility on your part the whole thing could go smoothly. You're lucky to be part of such a loving and big family (and lucky your parents are laid back!). I would try to accommodate everyone if poss as it seems relatively easy to do.

iamafraidofvirginiawolves3cats · 21/12/2017 20:14

I agree with shiny. You all sound inflexible tbh. Babies fit in with what their families do- it’s all fine to break their routine every now and then. Lots of big family get together with babies asleep on a bed of cushions in the corner of the room. Find a compromise and be thankful for family.

Weebo · 21/12/2017 20:33

Maybe OP and her husband would like to have dinner with her parents?

It's really not fair and IMO incredibly rude for PIL - or anyone for that matter - to be so demanding about how they should spend Christmas day.

ForalltheSaints · 21/12/2017 21:17

Boxing Day sounds ideal for a visit- better than the sales1

user1485778793 · 21/12/2017 21:26

It's the demanding behaviour that's the biggest issue.

Just do what you want Smile

BarbarianMum · 21/12/2017 21:30

Well tbf it's not just about "doing what you want" when it involves visiting other people, is it? Maybe the OP's timetable fucks up their day. Negotiating something that suits everyone is usually how its done.

LostInTheTunnelOfGoats · 21/12/2017 21:37

Bloody hell they sound like hard work

Stick to your guns. They can't "tell" you to do anything. What exactly does this rigid Christmas schedule of theirs involved?

So basically you've gone along with exactly what they want every Christmas since you got together with DH? That's really shit. They can't actually tell you what to do you know.

Did I read your post correctly - your baby has no stuff at PILS because he's never been invited??

LostInTheTunnelOfGoats · 21/12/2017 21:50

And NO to their new plan of coming to yours, it'll be the new tradition and you'll be stuck with them forever

It sounds as though this is less about traditions and more about keeping control of their children into adulthood. Are they like this the rest of the year?

user1485778793 · 21/12/2017 21:56

@lostinthetunnelofgoats ... very true!

astoundedgoat · 21/12/2017 22:00

At first glance, you are being completely reasonable and they are batshit.

On a second reading, you are actually being massively unreasonable. You announced all this a WEEK before Christmas? Of course they're pissed off. You've been massively rude, based on what you have said.

What you are doing in general is perfectly reasonable, and it's 100% fair that your parents get equal treatment, no matter how much your IL's jump up and down about it, but it's simply rude to announce a complete change of plan a week before the event.

Why didn't you mention this a month ago? You must have known.

Viviennemary · 21/12/2017 22:05

Don't give in to them or else you will find it's the same battle for the next 20 years. You are not the one ruining Christmas. If anyone is it's them with their determination that it's their way or no way. I agree. They're control freaks.

thecatsthecats · 21/12/2017 22:08

One of the things I'm happy my (bonkers) mum was firm on when we were kids was absolutely no schlepping around between the 23rd-26th. We'd visit her parents the weekend before Christmas, my dad's before New Year, and spend the few days of Christmas in our immediate neighbourhood properly relaxing, seeing people who lived in walking distance.

It's absolutely insane that they think their adult children with separate families should join in in perpetuity to their fixed traditions.

maras2 · 21/12/2017 22:14

I've never heard such nonsense. Xmas Shock That's not tradition.
That's batshit and very manipulative batshit too.

LilQueenie · 21/12/2017 22:14

I'd ditch them and have your own christmas. leave them to stew and just maybe they will grow up.

shinysinkredemption · 21/12/2017 22:15

Exactly astoundedgoat. All those who are outraged on OPs behalf, reread the post and consider how easily a bit of give and take could sort this out, rather than this my way or the highway attitude.

ILoveDolly · 21/12/2017 22:18

You don't even have to go. Once the others start having children it will be impossible to carry on as they have, you are just the test case. Do what you feel is right for your family.

underneaththeash · 21/12/2017 22:20

Have them back to yours in the afternoon as suggested, you can give them a timeframe and then you're at home when the baby want to sleep. Much easier.

SaturndayNight · 21/12/2017 22:21

Have posters on this thread really read the OP?

From my reading of it, she has basically cancelled on her inlaws with days to go before Christmas, in favour of Christmas lunch at her own parents - oh but she'll pop by with the baby later on, once all the annoying aunties and uncles have gone away.

And they can like it or lump it!

I find the Mumsnet attitude of "this is what we're doing and fuck the rest of you" very bizarre. You must all have rather strained personal relations if you are so intransigent about everything.

RemainOptimistic · 21/12/2017 22:21

They can fuck right off!

I wonder if you have a DH problem though OP? You two are the parents now, maybe it's time for an honest conversation about the future of how you'll do Xmas as a family of 3.

As for changing plans a week before Xmas - with a young baby then yes this is what happens! My LO is just 11 months now and his routine is still changing. Not to mention the impact of horrendous illness recently. I would not disrupt his routine for love nor money. It's only one day for goodness sake it's not like the inlaws live overseas or are dying etc.

ItsNachoCheese · 21/12/2017 22:23

Id either go to your parents or stay at home. Nobodys christmas needs to be that regimented

wiltingfast · 21/12/2017 22:26

Well you do sound a bit precious about the baby, they will generally sleep eat sit, wherever you are you know!

Plus a week's notice is a bit rich given you are being wildly disruptive of their traditions.

But they do sound v rigid, and if you weather the storm now by next year they will probably be used to it.

You do realise they just want to have everyone together for some bit of the day??? It's not that unreasonable, is it really?

Try and be nice. It's Christmas.

user1485778793 · 21/12/2017 22:27

All those people who are annoyed at giving a weeks notice.... really? How far in advance do you buy your food? Are your sprouts in the pan already Grin

It's only 2 people less, plenty more for everyone else.

Time to set boundaries, these people ARE controlling

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