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AIBU?

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To ruin everyone's Christmas?

213 replies

awifeyforlifey · 21/12/2017 17:55

This is my first thread, but I think I need some other perspectives here. Sorry for the length, as the whole thing's a bit fraught.

Background: every year, my DH's family celebrates Christmas the exact same way. When I married him, they expected all the traditions to continue the same: including having us sleep over on the floor of their already packed apartment so we could "wake up to Christmas," which they've all done since they were children. DH used to do it as a grown-up before we married (even after college, and even though he's always lived nearby). As we (still) lived nearby and I have medical issues that would make it difficult we declined the very first year, which did put several noses out of joint (although they were aware of my health issues) but the precedent was set and everyone was fine with it by the next year.

Fast forward several more years and we now have a baby under a year old. I should add that the only other change in tradition that's been "allowed" up to this point by DH's family is that the now married children can go visit their spouse's parents for a few hours before coming back in the evening. It's been this way for the past several years, which short-changes my parents a bit, but they're less sticklers for tradition and have been very gracious about it.

Our problem is this: the back and forth no longer works with a baby, so we've let everyone know that this year we're doing our own Christmas at home in the morning, and splitting our afternoon availability between DH's family and mine, who mercifully live somewhat close together. My parents, as always, are fine with it.

We know DH's family's day is structured with traditions so we've said not to change anything or wait for us, and that if it doesn't work for them to have us during the time we're available for them, not to worry about it. We'll spend Christmas with my folks.

Apparently we've now ruined Christmas. We've had push-back from several of DH's family (all with no children) about how much more convenient it would be for them not to have to change the layout of the day to accommodate us (which we've not asked for). We've had requests to exchange our availability for them with the time we reserved for my folks (which doesn't work for the baby's sleep/eat schedule - he's never been to DH's family to visit as he's not been invited, but his high chair/playpen/etc. are at my parents' house and we've timed it so that he'd have access to them at the right point).

DH's family has since then all discussed it between them and told us what their plan for us that day is. We've nicely declined and repeated our availability. I received a pursed-lips reply that they'd "have to check with everybody and get back to you, and we'll find something that works for EVERYONE." I'm honestly I'm not quite sure what that means, as we really can't change our availability that day. It either works for them or it doesn't.

The reason they want us to change our plans appears to be the fact that we'll be at DH's family's house during the time that the other grown-up children have "always" visited their spouses' families, and that they'll miss seeing the baby if we don't change times. While I do understand, if they do REALLY want to see the baby there doesn't appear to be any reason they can't. We gave them a week's advance notice to plan, and DH's siblings are married into my extended family. I've spoken with them about our plans in advance and they told me not to worry, that they'd be sure to get with us at some point that day; and if not, they'd see us at the family party the weekend before.

DH and I have discussed it, and both agreed we had laid out the day based on what was best for the baby, but I've gotten bombarded again today until I'm feeling a bit crap about the whole thing and wondering if there's something horrible I've missed. Now it's being suggested that everyone be invited back to mine in the afternoon instead, which would definitely ruin all the evening traditions, so I don't understand it at all. AIBU to just want to stick to the original plan?

OP posts:
BenLui · 21/12/2017 18:47

From experience if you allow them to railroad you this year they will expect to do it every year.

Be polite but stand firm.

As for “ruining Christmas” they are adults responsible for their own feelings.

FullOfXmasCheerOfCourse · 21/12/2017 18:49

This kind of nonsense is why I am glad I said that Xmas would always be in our house once we had children. Stick to your guns OP.

cathyclown · 21/12/2017 18:50

Bottom line for me is, if they REALLY cared about you and your little family, they would not be going on with this kind of stuff at all.

It is only one day FGS. So much angst.

We were the type of family who all gathered in Mum and Dads every year after marriage/partnerships. However once the little ones came along we all have Christmas Day in our own houses now. We gather instead at mums in the morning. It is very nice. Mum is in full time care now bless her.

It was something that evolved. No dramas.

NoStraightEdges · 21/12/2017 18:50

I think there's a bit of both going on here. They sound like they aren't willing to bend on their day and it does sound like you've said the only time you can visit is the time you know they've allotted for the others to visit their other family.

It would have been better if young have just said that this year we're giving CD at yours a miss and arranged to go on Boxing Day or whatever. Simpler all round! You know for next year!

Weebo · 21/12/2017 18:56

It sounds more like they are ruining your Christmas.

I would ask DH to ring them and let them know that now you have your own child you would like to start your own traditions and that surely they must understand considering how much they love theirs.

Don't rush about and stress on Christmas day because of their silly demands. Make sure to relax and enjoy yourself.

greenlynx · 21/12/2017 19:00

Their traditions sound quite unusual. Just wonder are your PIL very religious or is it a cultural thing?

Lashalicious · 21/12/2017 19:01

Exhausting to read your post. You said you’d be there while the others are not? Does that mean you’re having the special Christmas meal at your parents and not dh’s parents? Is that what they’re upset about, you not coming for the special Christmas lunch/dinner? You didn’t specify.

That was always the issue for us. We went to both every Christmas Day, but rotated which Christmas dinner we’d be at because of course they’d be at the same time. The truth is, we’d rather have had a leisurely morning at home with the fire and presents with our child, then have Christmas lunch that I would like to make at least once (never got to), then go visit both families for a couple hours each. Then rotate the meal the 2nd and 3rd year at the other houses etc. That would have been ideal, but we felt pressure to be at dh’s family every single time for the special meal, wanting us to do what they wanted in the timeframe they set including spending most of Christmas Eve with them too which left us with a couple of hours to go to my parents house where my very large extended family that I never get to see otherwise would be gone home and the meal over by the time we got there. My family never minded but it wasn’t fair to them. So we had zero time in our own home to make traditions for our child and our own little family and not much for my family.

I am so happy that we don’t have to set foot in dh’s awful family’s lair again. We have nothing to do with them, they are a truly evil set of several in laws (not any of the usual in law problems—I could have handled that!) that we put up with for many years until we had enough (nothing to do with Christmas schedules). Now we have no stress whatsoever. Do what you want, op. They sound horrible. It sounds like you’re tired of their pressure on you at holiday time, truth is they are ruining YOUR Christmas! Remember, you get to decide what you do at Christmas time, don’t let them decide for you. If they cared for you they wouldn’t put this pressure on you. They sound hostile to you to begin with.

LazyDailyMailJournos · 21/12/2017 19:02

This is easy to resolve:

Sorry to hear that X time doesn't suit you. We'll catch up with you after Christmas - enjoy your day and take care

Watch them back-pedal so fast that you won't see them for dust. You just need to be firm and stick to your guns. It is completely unreasonable to expect Christmas traditions to stay set in amber for decades. LTR and children are a great way of establishing new ones - presumably your MIL didn't carry on going round to her ILs for years and years?!

SaturndayNight · 21/12/2017 19:07

What's not clear from your post is when you told them of your plan. It's the 21st December, how come this is sent organised a long time ago?

Maybe you did say, I just couldn't see in your post.

SaturndayNight · 21/12/2017 19:08

Sorry - how come this wasn't organised - not sent.

SaturndayNight · 21/12/2017 19:10

You haven't said but I'm guessing you're having the main meal with your family, not your inlaws, is that right?

That's what they're upset about. How much notice did you give?

LokiBear · 21/12/2017 19:10

My in-laws are very similar. My sils partners do not see their family I'm Christmas day as they are expected to do everything pils way. I refused pretty much from the off. Instead, we alternated seeing my parents in the morning then dhs parents for dinner and vice versa until we had dcs. Once they arrived, I refused to do all of the travelling. Now we have Christmas morning at home and one set of parents come to us for breakfast. Then, we go to the other set for dinner. It didn't go down well the first year but we rode it out and now they accept it. I've always insisted, since having dcs, the Christmas eve is just for us. We make a big deal out of Christmas eve and usually do a special activity. Every year mil tries to get us to do their thing as they also make a big deal out of Christmas eve. Every year we tell them we want the day to ourselves and every year mil either books a breakfast or insists we come after to eat (usually at a time after the dcs bedtime.) It used to wind me up. Now I just smile and say 'No thank you' and refuse to engage further.

Iwanttobe8stoneagain · 21/12/2017 19:12

They are lucky you live close by and your parents live close by. Our parents live 250 miles apart and we live in the middle. We used to trek round but made it clear once we had kids we were going to spend Christmas Day at home. You have your own traditions to make. Stay at home and ask people to pop into yours on Christmas or Boxing Day.

BarbarianMum · 21/12/2017 19:13

Changing traditions is fine. But did you really only give them a week's notice? And why would you choose to visit them at a time when you know half of them won't be there? Confused

Weebo · 21/12/2017 19:15

I think this is one of the reasons why so many people end up hating Christmas.

DH and I decided after an awful year of running around with a newborn who had an awful cold and a 5-year-old who ended up knackered and tearful after bearly having any time at home with his toys that we weren't going to do it anymore.

There is plenty of time to see people and have a nice time over Christmas, not just one day and if anyone didn't like it, tough-titty-puff.

You can't always please everybody else.

Weebo · 21/12/2017 19:17

Barely* Xmas Blush

Originalfoogirl · 21/12/2017 19:20

I would refuse to go at all. Tell them you are having Christmas with your mum and if anyone wants to see you over the season, they know where your house is.

Also, did you say your baby hadn’t been invited to your in-laws. I’m hoping I’ve misread that.

TrojansAreSmegheads · 21/12/2017 19:21

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Butterymuffin · 21/12/2017 19:21

What LazyDailyMailJournos said.

SausageChipsAndCurrySauce · 21/12/2017 19:21

Bloody hell what a pita! Do your own thing op. Seems to be a common thing, adult children having to stay in the confines of their parents tradition, rather than being able to make their own. I have 2 adult DC's and they follow the script of their partners families, just as well I don't expect the same!

IrritatedUser1960 · 21/12/2017 19:26

Tell them all to just go and fuck right off and do whatever you want. I couldn't be doing with all that kind of crap. Sounds like a bunch of petulant children.

TheHolidayArmadillo · 21/12/2017 19:26

They sound fucking mad.

Stick to your plans! Don't be swayed! No surrender!

AndromedaPerseus · 21/12/2017 19:26

My DSIL was the same when we had ds1 all over he traditions had been to be observed including the opening of presents from 8pm until 2am. Then she had a baby the next year and could even be bothered to turn up to her parents for Christmas dinner as she now had a baby. OP you’ve made very reasonable adjustments to your day to accommodate everyone whilst making sure your Ds is priority. Don’t back down

StealthPolarBear · 21/12/2017 19:26

Can you pop in later on Christmas eve, before they go to floor?

TerracottaAmy · 21/12/2017 19:32

What TrojansAreSmegheads said

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