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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ruin everyone's Christmas?

213 replies

awifeyforlifey · 21/12/2017 17:55

This is my first thread, but I think I need some other perspectives here. Sorry for the length, as the whole thing's a bit fraught.

Background: every year, my DH's family celebrates Christmas the exact same way. When I married him, they expected all the traditions to continue the same: including having us sleep over on the floor of their already packed apartment so we could "wake up to Christmas," which they've all done since they were children. DH used to do it as a grown-up before we married (even after college, and even though he's always lived nearby). As we (still) lived nearby and I have medical issues that would make it difficult we declined the very first year, which did put several noses out of joint (although they were aware of my health issues) but the precedent was set and everyone was fine with it by the next year.

Fast forward several more years and we now have a baby under a year old. I should add that the only other change in tradition that's been "allowed" up to this point by DH's family is that the now married children can go visit their spouse's parents for a few hours before coming back in the evening. It's been this way for the past several years, which short-changes my parents a bit, but they're less sticklers for tradition and have been very gracious about it.

Our problem is this: the back and forth no longer works with a baby, so we've let everyone know that this year we're doing our own Christmas at home in the morning, and splitting our afternoon availability between DH's family and mine, who mercifully live somewhat close together. My parents, as always, are fine with it.

We know DH's family's day is structured with traditions so we've said not to change anything or wait for us, and that if it doesn't work for them to have us during the time we're available for them, not to worry about it. We'll spend Christmas with my folks.

Apparently we've now ruined Christmas. We've had push-back from several of DH's family (all with no children) about how much more convenient it would be for them not to have to change the layout of the day to accommodate us (which we've not asked for). We've had requests to exchange our availability for them with the time we reserved for my folks (which doesn't work for the baby's sleep/eat schedule - he's never been to DH's family to visit as he's not been invited, but his high chair/playpen/etc. are at my parents' house and we've timed it so that he'd have access to them at the right point).

DH's family has since then all discussed it between them and told us what their plan for us that day is. We've nicely declined and repeated our availability. I received a pursed-lips reply that they'd "have to check with everybody and get back to you, and we'll find something that works for EVERYONE." I'm honestly I'm not quite sure what that means, as we really can't change our availability that day. It either works for them or it doesn't.

The reason they want us to change our plans appears to be the fact that we'll be at DH's family's house during the time that the other grown-up children have "always" visited their spouses' families, and that they'll miss seeing the baby if we don't change times. While I do understand, if they do REALLY want to see the baby there doesn't appear to be any reason they can't. We gave them a week's advance notice to plan, and DH's siblings are married into my extended family. I've spoken with them about our plans in advance and they told me not to worry, that they'd be sure to get with us at some point that day; and if not, they'd see us at the family party the weekend before.

DH and I have discussed it, and both agreed we had laid out the day based on what was best for the baby, but I've gotten bombarded again today until I'm feeling a bit crap about the whole thing and wondering if there's something horrible I've missed. Now it's being suggested that everyone be invited back to mine in the afternoon instead, which would definitely ruin all the evening traditions, so I don't understand it at all. AIBU to just want to stick to the original plan?

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BarbarianMum · 21/12/2017 22:29

Its not the food, its the fact that other people are now expected to rearrange visits to their families to fit in with the OP's schedule.

Shadow666 · 21/12/2017 22:31

I also agree that it sounds like it's less about the traditions and more about the fact that you've decided to visit at a time you know everyone has plans to be elsewhere.

You're baby is really young so I don't really see why you can't do Christmas in the morning at your inlaws and the afternoon at your parents.

BestZebbie · 21/12/2017 22:35

I don't think you are unreasonable in what you want from your day.
But...you only did this with one week's notice?? What about all the other people involved in scheduling, not only at your PILs house, but at each of the houses of the partners? If they organised 6 months ago that all their siblings would meet in the afternoon because in the morning they'd be at PILs, then YABVU to try to dictate knock-on rescheduling at this short notice to potentially tens or even 100 people (depending how many siblings etc each partner has)

BewareOfDragons · 21/12/2017 22:38

Stand firm. Stand firm.

They are not the boss of you. Or your DH.

You are grown ups and perfectly entitled to celebrate any fucking day of the year any way you want, anywhere you want, and with who you want to celebrate it with.

Loonoonow · 21/12/2017 22:45

Absolutely do what works for you and your new family. Don't be bullied into putting DH's family of of origin first, your plans for new traditions are as valid as thier old ones.

I speak as a middle aged woman whose DCs are building their own homes and families. Every year I brace myself for the announcement that they won't be coming home but will be doing their own thing at Christmas. When it happens I will be sad but I will make new plans and DH and I will go back to the couply Chrismases we had before DC came along. I would never want them to come to us out of guilt or duty.

tobitcoinornottobitcoin · 21/12/2017 22:46

Whilst I think a week's notice is unreasonable of you (sorry you did ask!) expecting ppl to sleep on the floor... nah... they sound really wrapped up in themselves!

Can't you bond with them on other days of the year?!

greendale17 · 21/12/2017 22:50

How ridiculous they are! It’s one day and they do not own it. Your parents sound lovely and accommodating, unlike like your ILs.

^Your in-laws are control freaks

desperatelyseekingcruising · 21/12/2017 22:50

Bloody hell. You can always count on Christmas to bring out the drama llamas. Do what suits you and sod them, you have a little one to think about, and they're not good with other peoples schedules!

awifeyforlifey · 21/12/2017 23:55

Thanks all, my DH has offered to handle it and I've taken him up on it. To be clear, it's his more extended family (with whom DH is extremely close) that hosts Christmas, not my MIL, who is lovely. They travel a lot and haven't invited us/LO over yet this year. This isn't unusual.

I can't discuss his family marrying my extended family without being outing, but DH/MIL have no blood ties to the siblings I spoke of. I've had to change a detail here to maintain privacy, so I apologize.

Someone else had said we were favoring my family and why couldn't I switch the times - I'd explained about LO's schedule and high chair/playpen, which wouldn't fit in DH's family's space with all the relatives they have staying over, and certainly the noise level would clash with his nap time.

As for planning this for the time everyone is going to visit family, that time is decided every year by one particular sibling, who leaves around that time when they are ready and done with the last tradition. Everyone else follows suit when they go. The time changes slightly each year, and it's just whenever that tradition is finished. So the more I think about it, the more I think I'm not disrupting things majorly.

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awifeyforlifey · 22/12/2017 00:00

I think someone up thread asked how many people would be at DH's family's house. It's seven (not counting us), one of whom is my sibling. :)

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awifeyforlifey · 22/12/2017 00:16

I saw one more question, about where we have Christmas lunch. DH's family have a traditional Christmas breakfast, but don't provide lunch or dinner so we don't impact numbers in that way. We're also visiting DH's family first that day, not mine.

While we understand that the time clashes with when everyone has left for visits in the past, it wouldn't impact the hosts or MIL seeing the baby, just siblings (two) whom we'd see at the pre-Christmas bash the week before. After discussing it with DH and my MIL I feel sure we've made the right decision.

We're probably being a bit precious with our baby but he's in the middle of a schedule transition and taking him out to two different places on Christmas is a huge thing already. He's of an age where he will simply not lie in a corner and sleep - he's crawling and nearly walking and their apartment isn't baby proof. I really don't want to disrupt his day any more than we already will.

Sorry to drip-feed, hope this clarifies!

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Jux · 22/12/2017 00:39

Oh gosh yes, stick to your plans this year. Maybe next year it'll be easier.

Whatever happened to the revolving Xmas:
Year one, stay home. Set up visits to each set of parents sometime in the following week.
Year two, one set of parents
Year three, other set of parents
Year four, stay home again.

And so on.

Atkinson1910 · 22/12/2017 01:11

Tell them that it is your christmas day as well and you would like to spend it the way that you want. Do not be bullied by families. I have tried to please so many people in the past and it just hasnt work, so just please yourself and stop being bullied. In this day and age it is just pathetic how some families go on. The world will not stop if you dont do as they say. Have a very merry christmas and happy new year. Peace to all men, not just them!!!

LlamaClock · 22/12/2017 01:26

Yeah your ILs sound pretty nuts to me!!!

MiddleClassProblem · 22/12/2017 01:33

Is it possible to go to their breakfast, then your parents, then time just you lot?

Tbh I’d just stick to your guns. DH is onboard and when you normally see these threads the partner isn’t backing the OP up. You guys are clearly a team x

Doingthebattybat · 22/12/2017 01:34

They have their family traditions and now it’s time for you and DH to start your own family traditions at Christmas. You need to be able to adapt and accept change when your adult children are in relationships or if they go on to have children . It’s so unfair to lay down the law and try insist on carrying on with their rituals and traditions as if DH were still 10 years old, not married with his own child. Stick to your plans and don’t be sucked in to this unreasonableness,

awifeyforlifey · 22/12/2017 03:37

Middleclassproblem, it's not possible to go to their family breakfast this year because they never do it any later than 9am, and that would give LO no time at home to open his own presents/play with them before we leave. LO is going through a schedule transition and is a late riser, but DH and I are both adamant that he deserves to wake up in his own cot and have his own Christmas morning. :)

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Dianag111 · 22/12/2017 17:42

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Littlenic73 · 22/12/2017 17:43

I don't think you are being remotely unreasonable. Life moves on. We used to sit on the end of our parents bed to open presents when I was a kid. I wouldn't dream of expecting to do that now, plus my parents have 7 grandchildren so it would be a bit full on. My kids have never spent Christmas with DHs family although before they were born we used to alternate. Since then the cost and practicality of travelling abroad has stopped us but we do make a point of skyping them.

Micksee15 · 22/12/2017 17:56

do what suits your husband and yourself. Simples.

Sneezeandooops · 22/12/2017 17:57

Keep to your plan op. We used to visit the family on christmas day but since having the children we do christmas at home and visit my parents and in laws on different days.

cowssheephens · 22/12/2017 18:01

Start as you mean to go on OP, otherwise they will try and rule your Christmas every year. Enjoy your day and do what suits and makes your family of three happy.

SaturndayNight · 22/12/2017 18:05

it's not possible to go to their family breakfast this year because they never do it any later than 9am, and that would give LO no time at home to open his own presents/play with them before we leave. LO is going through a schedule transition and is a late riser, but DH and I are both adamant that he deserves to wake up in his own cot and have his own Christmas morning

This entire post is laugh out loud ridiculous! He deserves to wake up in his own cot and have his own Christmas morning?? I can't stop chuckling at you. He's a bloody baby, I don't think he'd hold it against you if he had to leave his throne before he had finished building his Lego Millenium Falcon.

NewUser24 · 22/12/2017 18:07

We split our Christmases between our families. On Christmas Day we go to one and Boxing Day the other. We then swap it over the next year.

It sounds like too much work going to and from. If they can’t compromise then just spend the whole day just the 3 of you and it would be a lot more peaceful

Madsy1990 · 22/12/2017 18:08

Your in-laws sound like psychopaths.

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