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AIBU?

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To ruin everyone's Christmas?

213 replies

awifeyforlifey · 21/12/2017 17:55

This is my first thread, but I think I need some other perspectives here. Sorry for the length, as the whole thing's a bit fraught.

Background: every year, my DH's family celebrates Christmas the exact same way. When I married him, they expected all the traditions to continue the same: including having us sleep over on the floor of their already packed apartment so we could "wake up to Christmas," which they've all done since they were children. DH used to do it as a grown-up before we married (even after college, and even though he's always lived nearby). As we (still) lived nearby and I have medical issues that would make it difficult we declined the very first year, which did put several noses out of joint (although they were aware of my health issues) but the precedent was set and everyone was fine with it by the next year.

Fast forward several more years and we now have a baby under a year old. I should add that the only other change in tradition that's been "allowed" up to this point by DH's family is that the now married children can go visit their spouse's parents for a few hours before coming back in the evening. It's been this way for the past several years, which short-changes my parents a bit, but they're less sticklers for tradition and have been very gracious about it.

Our problem is this: the back and forth no longer works with a baby, so we've let everyone know that this year we're doing our own Christmas at home in the morning, and splitting our afternoon availability between DH's family and mine, who mercifully live somewhat close together. My parents, as always, are fine with it.

We know DH's family's day is structured with traditions so we've said not to change anything or wait for us, and that if it doesn't work for them to have us during the time we're available for them, not to worry about it. We'll spend Christmas with my folks.

Apparently we've now ruined Christmas. We've had push-back from several of DH's family (all with no children) about how much more convenient it would be for them not to have to change the layout of the day to accommodate us (which we've not asked for). We've had requests to exchange our availability for them with the time we reserved for my folks (which doesn't work for the baby's sleep/eat schedule - he's never been to DH's family to visit as he's not been invited, but his high chair/playpen/etc. are at my parents' house and we've timed it so that he'd have access to them at the right point).

DH's family has since then all discussed it between them and told us what their plan for us that day is. We've nicely declined and repeated our availability. I received a pursed-lips reply that they'd "have to check with everybody and get back to you, and we'll find something that works for EVERYONE." I'm honestly I'm not quite sure what that means, as we really can't change our availability that day. It either works for them or it doesn't.

The reason they want us to change our plans appears to be the fact that we'll be at DH's family's house during the time that the other grown-up children have "always" visited their spouses' families, and that they'll miss seeing the baby if we don't change times. While I do understand, if they do REALLY want to see the baby there doesn't appear to be any reason they can't. We gave them a week's advance notice to plan, and DH's siblings are married into my extended family. I've spoken with them about our plans in advance and they told me not to worry, that they'd be sure to get with us at some point that day; and if not, they'd see us at the family party the weekend before.

DH and I have discussed it, and both agreed we had laid out the day based on what was best for the baby, but I've gotten bombarded again today until I'm feeling a bit crap about the whole thing and wondering if there's something horrible I've missed. Now it's being suggested that everyone be invited back to mine in the afternoon instead, which would definitely ruin all the evening traditions, so I don't understand it at all. AIBU to just want to stick to the original plan?

OP posts:
TwitterQueen1 · 21/12/2017 18:20

Er.. You're an adult and a mother and you really, really don't need to put up with this. Time to break free OP! You're ready, you're able and you're more than willing. Xmas Grin Don't let them dictate to you.

Sparkletastic · 21/12/2017 18:21

Put a stop to the bollocks and visit on Christmas Eve or Boxing Day

StrawBasket · 21/12/2017 18:21

At least your DH sounds supportive (and very reasonable). Stick to YOUR plans, hopefully next year they will have adapted.

You are much nicer than I would be, I really would go and spend the whole 2 days at my parents and see the in-laws when I am back.

hmcAsWas · 21/12/2017 18:21

OMG just how controlling are they!!
Stick to your plans OP

TSSDNCOP · 21/12/2017 18:21

I need to know what thesecrigidly held traditions are?

RandomMess · 21/12/2017 18:22

YANBU - stick with - "We can come around at x or not at all, whichever you prefer"

The other key phrase "That doesn't work for us"

Tell DH he needs to get them to back off Thanks

Capelin · 21/12/2017 18:22

I think that a week in advance was rather short notice. Could you not have told them any earlier? People do like to plan their Xmas day!

itsgettinghotinhere80 · 21/12/2017 18:23

they sound very controlling! i'd say given the stress it's causing everyone you'll see them boxing day

RandomMess · 21/12/2017 18:23

I can't imagine siblings are really that bothered whether they see the baby!!!

TheDevilMadeMeDoIt · 21/12/2017 18:26

They had their traditions when their children were little. Now it's your turn.

They've been humoured for long enough, and don't forget that whatever happens this year will become the new, set-in-stone tradition for future years if you bend over backwards to accommodate them now.

(And I wonder what the response will be when/if the other married children have DCs of their own?)

Autumnskiesarelovely · 21/12/2017 18:28

If they are kicking off it’s a sign you are doing the right thing. Stick to your guns.

Christmas is a time of good cheer and tolerance. Not giving in to bullying and the most aggressive family members!

Grey rock technique- keep very calmly repeating your stance. Do not engage. Don’t get drawn in to drama. Think yoda!

If you give in now it will always be like this.

BackInTheRoom · 21/12/2017 18:28

@awifeyforlifey I feel bad for saying this but your post was so long and so, so complicated that I skimmed it. That's it really, it's too complicated. You tell them what you can do and leave it there, go grey rock after and don't entertain any more discussions. That way you're not drawn in and won't say anything you'll regret and quite frankly avoid any more bonkers suggestions! Make your own family traditions from now on! Good luck OP.

meercat23 · 21/12/2017 18:28

Your plan sounds very sensible and fair to both families. In most families, once the children start their own families they want to start making their own traditions. Surely that is only natural and how it should be.

Stick to your plans and start making your own Christmas traditions.

dancerdog · 21/12/2017 18:29

You and your husband need to start your own traditions.

Tell them that with having children you want to work out your own Christmas days now, which will become what you always do as a family.

Maybe your children would like to wake up in their own house when Santa comes!!

SmileChuck · 21/12/2017 18:29

Your dh's siblings are all married into your extended family?

Did I read that right,?

Yes to what everyone else has said.

happypoobum · 21/12/2017 18:30

They sound absolutely awful.

Tell them you are not going to discuss it any more and if they carry on, you won't be coming on Christmas Day at all.

Then book to go to Antigua next year. Xmas Grin

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/12/2017 18:31

I don’t think it would be more regimented in Kim Jong uns household. YANBU at all.

diddl · 21/12/2017 18:31

" I should add that the only other change in tradition that's been "allowed" up to this point by DH's family is that the now married children can go visit their spouse's parents for a few hours before coming back in the evening."

And adults have actually done this??

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Spend CD with your parents & see ILs Boxing Day, or not!

CountryGirl1985 · 21/12/2017 18:32

Oh OP this sounds like pure hell! There is no way I would travel on Christmas Day, with or without a little one! You're being more gracious than me not to advise them that you're doing Christmas at home and they can have first dibs on Christmas Eve or Boxing Day, so definitely don't bend more than you have already!! And merry Christmas too x

f83mx · 21/12/2017 18:32

You sound utterly reasonable! Please don't back down now - stick to your guns - otherwise you'll set some sort of precedent for them being able to interfere/stick their beaks in. As others have said - literally say its then or why don't we catch up in the New Year. Bonkers!

junebirthdaygirl · 21/12/2017 18:35

Just checking one detail. You said your baby hasn't been around their house as hasn't been invited. Whats that about.
Also you do seem to favour your family. Could you not just swap around. Especially as you gave them litle notice.
My famiily always got together at my parents home and we did put a bit of planning into making sure we were all there at the same time. I didn't want to miss seeing my nephews and nieces.

ItsBeginingToLookAlotLikeChris · 21/12/2017 18:35

Wow Shock wow Shock and wow again.

Dear in laws, we have tried to come up with all suitable plans for Christmas day and sadly its turned into such a messy horrid thing we are not coming at all on Christmas day. We will see you you after

glitterlips1 · 21/12/2017 18:37

You have your own baby now so perhaps time for your own traditions. I broke away from the demands of family over christmas when my first child came along. I now love Christmas because I do what I want to do!

happypoobum · 21/12/2017 18:39

Yes you could probably use this as leverage to say they have shown you how difficult it is going to be now.

So from this year you will be spending Christmas Day at home, just the three (or more) of you. You will see ILS and DPs on Christmas Eve or Boxing Day.

Crazy Fuckers.

Passmethecrisps · 21/12/2017 18:40

Oh my word where is the joy in any of that?

Put your foot down and say any traditions from this point on will be ones YOU make with YOUR wee family.

We no longer do the trekking round over Christmas as it is exhausting and not good for small children. My DD likes waking up in her own bed for Christmas morning - this is her making her own little tradition. Let your own child do the same.

As long as DH is on side make one last firm point and tell them that Christmas Day will be spent in your own home.

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